Friday, 20 January 2017

Diagnosing Cybernetic Psychosis

One of the surest signs that someone has lost their voice or even enjoyed its most ignominious transformation into a positively massive nothing to anyone but a narcissistic delusional psychopath is that they have leant their voice and story to a decidedly terrestrial celestial corporate fiction.

Xians call this vocal artifact of mass human torture the Testimony.

Spiritual people call it evolution.

Media outlets know it. Corporate medicine, food and entertainment (politics) completely rely upon it:

People strong in spirit and weak in mind.

And non-spiritual people call it evolution.

Thursday, 19 January 2017

Last Chapter and Verse of Motherland - A Living Poetry


Stages phases of the Moon and changes in the warp
And weft of places in the cleft of Heaven and the Earth
A shallow grave or sallow face a charnel garden born
For all that we are born and swallowed by the Universe,
Engulfed by all we do not know we know this world so well
Confronted by the orphans of our infancy the pangs
Of guilt and sorrow voices that we shudder learn to spell
Angelic spirits of the Hell and Heaven that is Man's
An underworld of times before a language of the vault
Of stars careening through the seasons streaks upon the sky
The mind of Man a kind of meek enclosure's somersault
As sensible as at the mercy seasons everlasting passing by
That alternately clothed and stole from him and her their youth and age
A feast of living riches guarded by these orphan swords
Which pierce the body cracks of thunder seem to permeate
With calls to whom had seen us fade into the breach the maws
Of time and fortune the allure the comprehension of
So vast an language as our lives the artifice and avarice of laws
And gods were stolen from the sex and senses in the blood
And thunder of a dulcet breeze a father to a child
Newly married to the body and the earth a flood
Of thoughts and feelings, tastes, sensations, wonders blushing with the mind
Successions of the morning, of the stars at night the first
Then growing murmurs of the knowledge foisted on the soft
And delicately woven fabric breathing Heaven and the Earth's
Eternal substance spilled the mouths of memories the gods
Heirs to the blood and bone and soul who took these waters far
Removed the amniotic fluid of the womb a pulse
Engulfed the orphan Once upon a child who had part
From gardens of a mother and a father had convulse
The richest blood and thunder wonders all that lives and grows
These forests clouds and boundless sky and winding paths that speak
The very sequence the communion which the body knows
That temple of its whole desire consummated dreams
Of knowing if unknowing spasms and contractions all that looms
A specter of forever spelled and knit together Once
Again a land as new as morning old as all that moves
A Man and Woman Eve and Adam leaving to their sons
And daughters something that is lost upon the mind and found
The blood a hunger spelled it must escape or would its faery angels' very mouths.





Paradise Was - A Living Epic Poetry








Wednesday, 18 January 2017

Axiom 882 - Graduating from Cybernetic-Industrial Preschool (and every school)


The best way to get out of the wholly unchallenged monopoly upon human thought we generally call religion and spirituality is not to become an atheist or, as in the equally contrived political theater, to just pick a side and stick to it, but to take an inventory of all of the things that you know or have faith that some one does know in but an wholly competent fashion (or faith in any authority) and take careful note of all that you do not actually know by your own faculties and senses, whether it is true or not, fiction or fact.

For there is nobody who is not touched by religion, whatever even illusory (or delusional) protection from religion (or religion) one has contracted for. And that is quite as awesome a fact as any claim made by any holy scripture of religion (or science) on Earth. 

Society has all kinds of dreams of freedom but nowhere to go.

That is its greatest genius - and yours.

And I offer it to you for free.

All it will cost you is nothing like what it has already cost you.



Just getting rid of control, while titillating, is only that

Systems of control work so well because they give so many people a sense of somewhere to go. For you and your kindred, that means really defining what you are going away from not toward. To focus on the face of the world is to focus on your face and your heritage, your voice.

I want to hear that





Twinkling stars would blend into their every crier homes
And gardens suffered and enjoyed the voice of earth and sky
A strange and eminently graceful form of beauty all thine own
The transformation of forever ever passing by
Commanded by the heir a fortune quite beyond the weights
And measures of a currency that bleeds into the tongues
Of Sun and Moon and Star, of winter, spring and autumn rays
That fight like stems of living pleasure out of winter drums
Festooned the organs of the ear, the fear and wonder of
A child by successions of their graduation from
A past by turns relieved of words of care that could be heard
Coherent as the dawn of day the morning of the Soul
Who, cradled in the home of light and air and mist, returns
An Heaven portents all the paths with which we gleam and grow
The winter and the spring of veins throughout the brain the press
Of pounding forces and their coursers populate the vault
Of heaven and the human mind with stories we pretend
Had any genesis but best inveigled their assault
Upon a child in the womb and in the school of life
So many angels of their gods of mom and dad were conned
The organs of some oddly sweet horrific Paradise
Whose phases ran like faces lived and died upon the face a God
Inhuman voices make their voice to dance upon the keys
Of freedom by the beat of drums of war and former selves
Resort to speaking on behalf of ancestors and thee
Whose native voice belonged to God and to nobody else
As smuggled into smuggled out of its own prison wombs
Whose walls had closed with visions those of prisons in the mind
Converted to the Earth and Heaven swollen with the truce
Advances with its thirst for human blood by every kind -
And I would say that story first began I learned to speak,
My words resounding through these organs through mine organs bleed.





Paradise Was - A Living Epic Poetry







Axiom 881 - Corollary of the Cybernetic Algorithm


To the very degree that we lose contact with our past, our voice and our blood celestial heritage it becomes that much more easy to buy into the idea of "freeing yourself from your past," the more truly oppressive if oddly narcotic the subsequently ever widening gulf between what merely passes for the truth and what our voice is born truly sensible of.







Active Imaginings claw and howl like beasts,
Pictures of the soul flicker in and out of hellish flame,
The door so thinly sealed
Is but a tree in a garden,
The truth so tightly bound
Is but a serpent's (human baby's) fang
That swells the sea of sacrifice.

Vampires drink the world
With unnatural thirst
And undying love
Shines
Like corpse skin.
Myths of ages course
Through deeper gulfs than these
And gods (and moms and dads) of old
New folds of mind and matter
Consummate.




What is the Family Tree, the holy Voice and Story of our children?

What is the Family Tree?

Buddha tells Jesus to get off it; Jesus tells Buddha to get out from under it. Then they tell each other where to put it and Muhammed just wants to stone both of them and burn down the whole forest; it only gets worse from there.


Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School







Behind their roiling branches clouds by gusts of wind and rain
Hath sound their compass the unfathomed deep of life and thought
Desires spelled some holy language pressed into the brain
The mind and matter every fathom of our native family, our God
Were taken up by every church the poison in the mind
Narcotic as the amniotic waters of the womb
Engulfing every measure of the heavens and the earth, the sky
And all that lay about the rays of Sun and Star and Moon;
The moan of ardent forces air and purpose that escape
The mouth of every bound of nature sounded from the first
Romantic monument to continuity in change
A pleasure in and of ourselves a thing upon the verge
The very substance of the mind the organs of the death
And resurrection every day and every play of night
Whose every season speaketh holy demons every breadth
And element that were sustained by all that bade its flight
Converging like a swarm of birds the body for an hour
Fleeing in a burst of transformation augured by
Innumerable signs and symbols speaking to the flower
Bleeding with the deepest reaches of the human mind
Conceives in speaking with the nether regions of itself
Some wonders understanding and imagination share
This pleasure and this liberty the language all the realms
A mother and a father gardens nurse the vital fruit we bear
Our growing eats the apple owning something of the vast
And amniotic substance (ether) the baptismal waters fonts of stars
And pools and vaulted and embowered hallows shallows Man's
Inheritance this blood and wonder, breath and reason under his command
Under this power (flags of freedom) ransomed by the gilt and guilt instilled in human hearts
Entreat as though their voices nothing quite so rare and rich
As the permission to reject the armies of themselves
As reinvented for the stage of history as lips
Which close and open by the power of inhuman spells
Arranged the alphabet of human heritage celestial, a book
The AUthor of the Gold and God of Man's deliverance
The body of a mother and a father saved by all they took
Into their mind and body the assimilation and incorporation of such evil winds
Which blew with all the force of human heritage and swept
Them up as surely as concussions bombs of poison oaths
Incorporated so equated with the very breath
That had only a moment hence aborted from our homes
Our blood and brain the folds the marriage mind and matter lost
Its voices howling like the winds some ancient Holocaust.





Paradise Was - A Living Epic Poetry





Reasonable people must ask themselves this question and make some considered attempt to give voice to their most honest response in mind and body:

And that is, when people invariably use dramatic music (like Strauss or Brahms) to score the audio tracks of theatrical presentations of what we call outer space, is this music so celestial and apt because it is about outer space or could it be or also be because it is as celestial as it speaks of our truly celestial family heritage, a heritage that has effectively if not always intentionally been held hostage by science and religion, whatever other utility, facility or felicity they can boast in their defense? 


Science and Science Fiction operas of interstellar travel are often accompanied by motifs of religious proportions and this is so because the reaches of space (or of human growth and age) border upon and overlap and bleed as do we with celestial reaches of our own psychology and biology here and hereafter, which is exactly why the horizon of the born coordination and symbiosis higher human cognitive faculties and fancies are of such strategic significance to the international metaphysical military intelligence mafia and every affiliated church and school for extracting human capital at the expense of the native human voice and our celestial as biological blood heritage in living creative intelligence.
Quoted in









"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

 - Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

More quotes like these at

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School
















Monday, 16 January 2017

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School





My Kingdom Come is Biology (and Psychology) 101.


Xians think God loves you if you shovel His shit. Greens think Mother Earth loves you in spite of yourself. All claim to speak for the gods. 

No child can or need speak for their elders. They can speak for themselves or they cannot be your elders (or gods) - nor a child  themselves.




Reasonable people must ask themselves this question and make some considered attempt to give voice to their most honest response in mind and body:

And that is, when people invariably use dramatic music (like Strauss or Brahms) to score the audio tracks of theatrical presentations of what we call outer space, is this music so celestial and apt because it is about outer space or could it be or also be because it is as celestial as it speaks of our truly celestial family heritage, a heritage that has effectively if not always intentionally been held hostage by science and religion, whatever other utility, facility or felicity they can boast in their defense? 


Science and Science Fiction operas of interstellar travel are often accompanied by motifs of religious proportions and this is so because the reaches of space (or of human growth and age) border upon and overlap and bleed as do we with celestial reaches of our own psychology and biology here and hereafter, which is exactly why the horizon of the born coordination and symbiosis higher human cognitive faculties and fancies are of such strategic significance to the international metaphysical military intelligence mafia and every affiliated church and school for extracting human capital at the expense of the native human voice and our celestial as biological blood heritage in living creative intelligence.









"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

 - Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

More quotes like these at

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School







For knots in agèd trees forgotten letters in the bound
Exalted pages of the greatest fables all the Earth
Relieved, in league with priests and armies, children of the sound
Of their own voices joined the song and knowledge of the Universe;
How now by leaps and bounds inured the nourishment of ills
That suffer and enjoy the company a score of men
And women as consoled cajoled by fables that fulfilled
Their meager rations of the fabric of their mind instead
Of facing much the more the menace of themselves the scourge
The blackest depths of space and time a hole that wholly circumscribed
The death and birth the womb of stars the Heavens and the Earth
The Sun and Moon of all the language of the human mind
Bleeds into that of nature, the Hereafter into thee
This pearl of Earth the center of the Universe and there,
That world beyond, that mother and that father for whom we
The Here of the Hereafter bleed, in turn, the Great Beyond of Heaven's everywhere,
For what can live inside the mind had richness born of every tree
And this amidst the congress of the stars, the seeds, and baths
Of light and water darkness fathomed by the jubilee
The laughter of a child heir the blood of all these in Man's
Alive with that desire, song and knowledge spanned the gulf
The genesis and consummation of that spirit lights
The skies (the eyes of eastern kindred parents) the minds of limpid pools encourage and repulse
Successive forms of fleeting bliss and sorrow that benights
These organs of the surest song of reason or renown
As sensible as far beyond the grasp that blood's resolve
Inspired as that little child by its every bound (its every sound)
Upon the lips that form upon the marriage Eve and Adam psalm
As heir as not the medicines of Man's and nature's force
And fullness stretch the far horizon married as the womb
The very names of Eve and A-Dam, Whorus and the gourds
These cups of every spell of blood these forces organs Sun and Moon
To live, to breathe and not to yield our bleeding with so great
Unfathomable reaches mind with mind conceives and consummates.














"I know, right. Nothing I like more than sating my desire to point out though an immunity to the unassailable failings of my counterparts on the largely contrived political and religious spectrum."












All Comments from

2017 Lecture 01 Personality: Introduction to the course
Jordan B Peterson

https://youtu.be/5pH-QZG9OpQ



Rayn Gryphon commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  7:35 AM

"An engineer of the spirit?"

This sounds like a mechanistic view of a social scientist.

Can't believe people are still taking his courses.

7:30 Freud fucked his sister and made Eddie Bernays who gave us Democracy as cultural genocide.

All Freud's theory came from his wanting to fuck his mother and kill his father, assuming everyone else felt the same way.

Typical fucking social psychologist.

15:30 If personality predicts political orientation then it can follow that political climates (social and religious engineering) can induce personality.

But he is not making any provision for this, which is deadly wrong.

[Correlation does not necessarily equate with causation]

This is an especially sophistry precisely because this pundit touts the ideal of the Divine Individual, an ideal he has absolutely no qualms about foisting upon his retinue of passive receptacles or followers nee students, even as he just finished lecturing us on how difficult it is to conceptualize ideals.



Stop Racism and Prejudice 2017 Cmon Lets Do It
Rayn Gryphon your a big guy




Rayn Gryphon
Stop Racism and Prejudice 2017 Cmon Lets Do It
When you ignore my arguments you support my arguments. Free advice just to help you muster a sufficiently rational retort on behalf of your Lord and Savior.




NappaTheProducer
Here personally out of curiosity which is probably why people still take his courses as you point out. Word of mouth as I notice from earlier videos when asked the students say they were recommended this course by a friend. Aside from that afraid I can't argue since I haven't progressed in this topic in general enough to try figuring things out with you. Though I"m also curious to find out why you wish people a successful " career as Jesus Christ " or "Lord and Savior"




NappaTheProducer
and wow you have a lot of videos.




Rayn Gryphon
NappaTheProducer JC Peterson uses unmistakable Xian iconography in his videos and promotes the ideal of the Divine Individual exemplified by the person or archetype of Jesus Christ, a fictional stooge of the Roman Empire whose legacy is astronomical cult psychology rooted in the ideal of a personal relationship and salvation predicated upon indulging an wholly understandable if inexcusable psychosis generated by the largely self-inflicted explosive augmentation of the ancient family psychology of Man, our native voice.





"the proficiency with which the enemy MANUFACTURES avatars and entire movements is quite extraordinary"




Rayn Gryphon
Joshua Roberts Thanks for your comments. Very enlightening.

And it need be said that for the Xian and all of their Roman ideological step sisters and step brothers, the torture of one particularly good man-god is critical to the very genesis and not just redemption of all life, the only case where torturing and killing an innocent man is the best possible thing for all existence, a torture anticipated as the dawn or the spring by every preceding event on Earth, so that man being born and man being tortured were as inextricably symbiotic as oxygen and carbon dioxide, a Roman developmental pathology and sadomasochistic appetite that has far exceeded its official Xian mandate.

The surviving Roman mafia and its retinue of inbred sociopaths (Borges et al, after whom Jesus and every iconic personality are modeled) succeeded in creating the machine assembly language and occult universal joint for the most pleasurable and narco-hypnotic developmental impediments the very bedrock of all subsequent and wholly symbiotic mass human biological and psychological industry.

The international metaphysical military intelligence mafia is just that, occult.

http://cosmicheaven.blogspot.ca/2016/10/born-to-be-tortured-unauthorized.html




COSMIC Phoenix
Alex Quant The Sagnac Experiment proves the Aether. Not to mention "Dark Matter" is just a modern day name for the Aether. The supposed "Dark Matter" performs exactly the same function as the "Aether" does in the Geocentric Universe. Another term for this is "Plankton Particles" 


Axiom 324 - The Aether

Axiom 575 - The Horizon is the Sun

Video Series - The Geocentric Universe

Geocentric Universe - not flat earth
Rayn Gryphon

https://youtu.be/jsBzp5euF7M


GEOCENTRISM-Sagnac's experiment - an animated explanation
Malcolm Bowden

https://youtu.be/SWmlimH7laY

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School



"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

- Former CIA Director William Colby


''We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.''

- William Casey CIA Director 1981


Reference: Religion and Science (the false dichotomy) 


Evolutionary State of the Union Address - A Living School






M.F. Serious
Rayn Gryphon well stated. Intrigued. Thanks for the link.




Rayn Gryphon
NappaTheProducer I also have over forty books on revisionist romantic cultural anthropology and tens of thousands of pages in a blog, all totally free of charge.




babybobo1231
Rayn Gryphon I don't see much Freudian influence in Peterson. He seems quite critical of Freud's theories, and skeptical of Jung's. Peterson is also a personality and clinical psychologist not a social psychologist.




Rayn Gryphon
babybobo1231 I cited the time stamp where he cited the work of Freud. I know he is critical of Jung as well.

Every word of his politics is social psychology. He employs or not as it suits him. Read my earlier remarks.

15:30 If personality predicts political orientation then it can follow that political climates (social and religious engineering) can induce personality.

But he is not making any provision for this, which is deadly wrong.

This is an especially sophistry precisely because this pundit touts the ideal of the Divine Individual, an ideal he has absolutely no qualms about foisting upon his retinue of passive receptacles or followers nee students, even as he just finished lecturing us on how difficult it is to conceptualize ideals.




babybobo1231
I read some of your earlier remarks. I just don't see the same criticisms as you. I'm graduating this year in my psychology studies, and peterson seems to be scientific where the science is certain and philosophical where therr are gaps in our understanding. 




Rayn Gryphon
babybobo1231 Just observing the obvious. The opening remarks on personality are governed not by family or society but by a kind of spiritual mechanical engineering that sees the individual personality in a maelstrom of value-indeterminate forces largely of an otherwise "unfathomable" mind.

Are we watching the same video?

Not a social psychologist?




babybobo1231
Yes.




Sergio Montserrat (Puntox)
One can't criticize a theory if one doesn't explore it.
Peterson would make a disservice to the long history of psychology if he criticized any theorician without first exploring the theories he or she published.

Your reading of 15:30 differs from Peterson's words, and that might be why you don't follow his line of thought.
Personality predicts personal political sympathies, not political climate.
Orderly people will gravitate to conservative perspectives and stances, while creative people will gravitate towards liberal perspecives and stances.
The ammount of people, specially thos in power, who exist in a society will determine the overall political climate. If there are more conservatives, the society will slowly shift to become conservative, and viceversa.

Indeed, the environment can modify behavior (not personality) [Freud, Jung, Pavlov, Maslow and many other psyhologists and pedagogues talk about this in great detail], but the conflict between the inner persobality and urges from the individual and what is allowed or not by the social structure (and the internalized rules into de superego) is a cause or psyhological stress that leads to pathology.
This is why Peterson comments about the problems people face when their innate tendencies clash against the demands of the society and social role they perform.




Rayn Gryphon
Sergio Montserrat In early infant psychology what is even remotely transcendent to thee or thine own mind is not necessarily wholly unconnected to thyself, some if little sublimation of whom were integral to the every symbiotic organ and animal of family and self.

You don't have exclude the family heritage to have the fullest articulation of the self.


In honour of your last name:

"In our house religion was not "strict," any more than breathing was strict. It was necessary and natural; it was part of every day; it made irrefutable the fact that unless God cherished every heartbeat, a human being - and above all a boy - could only wander the world as an outcast, an envious starveling watching other people's birthday parties. God ruled the world and loved us all. I believed that, and I believe it still, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. To try to reverse that evidence, in small ways and large, was what we owed in return."

- Nicholas Monsarrat, The Time Before This, Page 127, Chapter 8, "If In Doubt," 1975




"You may not think so, at this precise moment, but we are not inevitably doomed to hate and destroy one another.... Of course we can balance the world on love and faith, any time we choose. We can make it the mirror of Paradise, if we want to.... Vaguely we do want to. But do we want to enough? Will we choose, in fact, or will we spit it all out in each other's faces?"

- Nicholas Monsarrat, The Time Before This, Page 144, Chapter 9, "A Little Night Music," 1975

It is a very bad world matriculated into family cult psychology. I would advise anyone to take all the time they need, never underestimate the impact of a cybernetic-industrial society thousands of years in the making (created like all Bibles and sciences upon the destruction of the native family voice and blood heritage), and be willing to have one's actual brain growth (and its however difficult emotional wells) betray any and all confidence relationships.

Then, just maybe, you will feel yourself again.

And when you do that, you don't leave yourself with the delusion that this world can be fixed or that you have to "do your part."

You did your part by being born into a world that would take it upon itself to treat you like a debt to society instead of the other way around.

So you think society does not effect personality but that personality effects political orientation.

Are you familiar with Newton's third law of motion?

How did you manage to separate any psychosis-inducing factors from mass psychology?

Seriously. I want to know, or is this your way of telling us that Peterson is your god?




babybobo1231
Do you think peterson meant that society doesn't affect personality? And I'd like you to elaborate what you mean by psychosis inducing factors from mass psychology? 




Daniel Lassander
This is something that really interests me, personally i really like Jordan B Peterson and his videos. To me at least he doesnt try to come off as "right" in an objective sense of the word. Or that he considers that his own way of understanding psychology is the 100% objective true way of understanding it.

I do believe that the first step to changing your political beliefs comes first from changing your own ideas and values, which in turn will change your personality.

You are free to think and believe what you want about Jordan B Peterson, i for one really like him, to me he comes off as a person that cares very deeply about the world we live in, about how we as humans interact with the world in a meaningful way, and how we have the ability to see ourselves in a more accurate light to help us navigate life in a better way, first for our own sake, secondly for the sake of compassion for others and thirdly for a future that is better for everyone involved.




babybobo1231
Well put Daniel.




Luis F.R.
Were you wearing a fedora while typing this?




Daniel Lassander
Thank you sir!




Rayn Gryphon
Daniel Lassander All cults have two fields of interest: one is all the things you just cited. The other is a need for a surrogate family tribe and trust. The first can be innocuous. The second can and often does exert a corrupting influence.

Just the fact that you couch your praise in such a way as to absolve Peterson's (JC's) arguments of all repudiation strongly leads me to believe you have chosen to double down on the most collegiate lapping-it-up because it is like a new mommy and daddy phase of any new breadth of knowledge.




babybobo1231
Is that what you really think, Gryphon?




Rayn Gryphon
babybobo1231 He himself states without any qualification that personality determines political orientation. Your argument is with your Lord and Master - not I.

Psychosis is what civilization farms, exploits and exports through its insinuation into and so animation by corrupting beyond most all subsequent care or capacity native family heritage and psychology.

Psychosis is a natural developmental response to overwhelming as customary insults to human intelligence indelible developmental impressions vaunted by the commensurate social as personal psychosis as what amount to exceptional propensities for glorified arbitrary lapses in comprehension, reason and empathy smuggled as a new social as cellular reflex into all confidence relationships and therefore passed through families and cults as well as any venereal disease.

Any questions?




babybobo1231
I'm not sure your tone and insinuation is needed. And psychosis is developed from biological as well as psycho-social experience and development. Civilization has a role to play, but don't take Peterson's omission of it to signify that he is misguiding or misleading.




Rayn Gryphon
When the mind splits off from itself it adopts the unpredictable and unprovoked need to dominate somebody else with impunity, an effectively cellular and social need and reflex smuggled into any given confidence relationship, especially with groups (or cults) that absolve one of all proportional knowledge or responsibility questioned on pain of just such domination of one kind or another. And any very competent command of one's own brain function must question any very popular form of psychosis.

(Profound and ultimately critically informative as restorative social anxiety can come to inform pathology and personality beyond most all surviving social anxiety across a wide range of spectrum disorder narcissistic psychosis and psychopathy that retains and sustains a biological need to smuggle in the biological need to dominate or commandeer any confidence relationship into any confidence relationship on an wholly unpredictable and unprovoked basis doubles as the means for transmitting this to vulnerable people as well as that of any venereal disease.)



[To add to that, the subject becomes hopelessly dependent upon any even mere suggestion of an authority upon whom to hang their sense of reality, an authority that arbitrates for what is true or false without any mediating influence from one's own cognitive faculties.

[Most people take most of their mental universe on faith (or by authority, which is the same thing). This in itself betrays a diminished capacity for autonomous cognitive function (or for making distinctions between what they have determined for themselves and what others have determined for them, or between what is necessarily true and what is not necessarily true) and so an increased propensity for unprovoked aggression (or wholly unpredictable and unprovoked lapses in comprehension skills).


[This is, arguably, the entire purpose of any church (or school) for extracting human capital.]


The only thing worse than confusing true and false is equating what is not necessarily false/true with what is necessarily true, personal revelation with objective fact as though (as with any alleged knowledge of God ) one even need to (or could) and as though this does not, in fact, detract from the full value and whole or native coordination of either personal revelation or objective sensory experience. Such constitutes a comprehensive atheism that does not commit or need to the woeful fallacy of assuming that it necessarily follows from the fact that something is not necessarily true (like personal subjective revelation) that it is necessarily false, a fallacy that cuts both ways across competing though strangely compatible cults of religion or atheism.

Just citing this axiomatic reasoning has garnered me nothing but extreme prejudice from literally every walk of human thought that I have prevailed upon to consider either it or the ancillary dimensions of just how psychological the world of all genres of knowledge or faith as though doing so necessarily impugns its value or validity and so that of the people whose veritably chemical dependence is bred best by immersion in just such a fallacy (or various cults for fighting one's way out of it), often in social situations involving high levels of trust, faith or vulnerability, such as in school, infancy, bereavement, sex, recreational drugs, or in religion, politics, history and medicine.

This must impugn everything from feminism to anti-feminism, Christianity to Atheism, science to religion and everything from systems of culture to systems of military-grade social engineering preys upon codifying through its antique monopoly upon all human capital (animation) a perennial vulnerability, suggestibility and indelible impressions of and so propensities for unprovoked and wholly unpredictable lapses in comprehension or empathy (propensities for glorified dominance symbiotic with any and every tribal orthodox we deign to call a culture and that history tells us must fill any vacuum in purely rational ethically-discriminating and even imaginative love or discourse).

"On a related note, have you ever noticed that many people think that many people are stupid? And yet very few people saddle themselves with such an ignoble distinction.

"The inimitable Magic of Mass Psychology - we're free as we are free to absolve ourselves of any but the most flattering personal power or responsibility."




And I would only add that As long as the story apes your own personal story and voice in favor of the comparably narcotic power of pooling it with some tribal orthodox that promotes and indulges the conflation of personal revelation (or story) and fact, even though this rather detracts more than not from the natural power and intelligence of any story (fact or fiction), except under the commensurate narcotic effects of what amounts to an however popular brand of high functioning narcissistic delusional psychosis and psychopathy supplied by our own immune system (and that of social groups) in order to protect the world and ourselves from ourselves. Such people, when pressed, never seem to give any credence to their own voice, much less to their own family history, much less how it actually effected their brains inured to more than they come to even want to know, even though this effectively removes them from any very accountable orientation to their environment, a trait that, tellingly, generally qualifies them or any cult member to vaunt their or their tribe's authority to arbitrate for distinctions between fact and fiction.

[....]

"What is a human right? Who is equal to whom? You contest political correctness and yet vaunt their philosophy." - Rayn

Nobody is equal.

Start there.

Then everyone is run through institutional culture that makes everyone the same and yet equally alienated. Same schooling. Same expectations. Same burden to society. Same psychotic response whilst taking one's place somewhere on the kiddy and largely contrived political or religious spectrum in order to secure the consoling comfort of the same righteous indignation as to the antisocial coping systems of a herd of other equally fucked up people.

You call that freedom?

Get God's cock out of your ass.

You have no rights, soldier.

You have the right to be a member of the human inventory, an inventory which you will note has never been in any very great danger of running the business.




babybobo1231
I've never read such cynical and inaccurate statements




Rayn Gryphon 
Cult psychology of all kinds and stripes were a perfect storm and fabled Paradise sharing a symbiotic genesis and developmental authority with that of any and all family psychosis itself the voice that the world must suffer to the very extent we refuse to listen to what it has to tell us, a voice that is the primary research tool for all of my work.

"The farthest if most informative if overwhelming reaches of the voices and stories in our minds and in our skies are often farmed out to religion, spirituality, science, pomp and masque (be they of angel or space telescope, Ascended Masters or Shakespeare, none of whom bear any but the most abstract relation, if any, to the people and voices in our blood) the better to avoid the subsequently white noise or background radiation of our voice."




babybobo1231
Almost nihilistic, really.




Rayn Gryphon
babybobo1231 As long as America's (read Civilization's) greatest failures are inextricably bound to its most resounding success (at nothing like supplying its ascending and descending orders of religious zealots with anything more substantial than the most albeit narcotic command of native human liberty), it is business as usual. And last I checked whatever the glory of any even celestial corporate fiction (or religion), the inventory can never run the company, except under the effects of a level of magical credulity that would be more natural to a five year old on Christmas Eve than to the however well educated or loyal repertoire of a grown adult.

"Trace the substance, blood and thunder of your very own voice and you will trace the entire force and organ of all systems of communication. This was and is what all poetry, art, science, architecture or religion (and even life) - or its blood corruption - was and is for."

- Rayn Gryphon




Rayn Gryphon
The Mind is its own place and has visceral, vascular as ephemeral holdings in all living creative intelligence here and hereafter.

And the God of the Mind is the human Voice.




Rayn Gryphon
Here is the clearest indication that you are at least somewhat out of touch with your native voice - that you have never thought to think of the story of your life or nor treat it as a kind of Holy Scripture Worthy of Study, of Worship, of Consummate Enjoyment as of a living visionary legacy spelled across every organ and orbit of Heaven and Earth and by some numinous level dissembled by everyone who will ever live a song of living knowledge as vital as the assimilation of earth and water, air and light worthy of the birth and universal respiration of every newborn child of a mother and father womb and tome whose importance, person and psychology bleeds with that of the most humane and knowledgeable as any doctor or prophet gods and goddesses of our native brain, of ourselves and of themselves unto the first and the last and the everlasting ever passing by weeping, sighing, breathing only this thought of you, of themselves, of the most telling joy and sorrow of our very lives.

And, what is more, precisely how little you have ever heard any even mere mention of this fact (this story) is precisely how sick the world.

However, this is not the only way I take the measure of how sick the world and its people. I am also availed with the top five emotional and I am sad to say intellectual responses (or epithets) to any of my work (including this): Disgust, apathy, violence, anxiety and pity.

If that does not tell you something, I honestly don't know what will.

The only only angels, gods, saints, devils or ascended masters (or alien beings) who are ever in our body, our mind and thus in our blood are our mothers and fathers, uncles and aunts and their mothers and fathers, uncles and aunts.

And so we should want to embrace that knowledge in our minds as much as in the most optimal flow of our blood, our meridians and that of the whole world of Heaven and Earth.

We know this biologically so why don't we know this psychologically?

Or, if you know this psychologically, why don't you know it biologically?

To know this blissful knowledge is to live this blissful knowledge and to live this blissful knowledge is to know this blissful knowledge to your and only to your own most personal satisfaction and understanding, expansion and growth everlasting, life to life to life, day to day and year to year in the very celestial as terrestrial language of your life, your voice, your story, your blood and that of your ancestors and of the entire cosmos of the here and hereafter or you ancestors the only beings worthy of the attribution of divinity or evil, sanctity, story or supplication.

Such is the born temple and dimension of a child and that of any and all song or knowledge worthy of the name.


"He was imaginative, Yes. But there was the pull of life urging him on. Sometimes, if you concentrated on seeing more than you saw, then you could feel more of what was. Just as the air would thin at the top of a mountain, so did this “was” become finer, encompassing more, this something that reached or could have reached every place in existence all at once.

"Looking off into the distance, you knew there was more beyond that invisible line between Earth and sky. The clouds were always going there. And the way they always seemed to change as they moved that their motion and change seemed the same. Maybe they were always disappearing into that thin line. And it was just at that line, turning now into the sunny expanse of a long and empty road that would lead in a roundabout way to a path he would find, as usual, long before he ever got to the bridge, a bridge that, by most of whom passed over it by car or truck, hardly ever thought of as a bridge at all. But to kids who have spent almost every summer day since they were seven or eight playing their unintentional kind of communion on the banks of the stream that ran under it, it was a bridge over a path that led as far as the road – and farther for being alloyed with a natural realm from whose harmonious presence they had never had need to shy away, that had bounded their lives as surely as one single castle could bound a kingdom of life."

- Susanna: A Book of Kin, Page 44




Rayn Gryphon 
In my experience academics are always on the edge of mental breakdown. Nature of the institutional beast.


Rayn Gryphon
Xianity is dehumanizing. And is invariably adopted by dehumanized people for reasons very compelling to them but no less psychotic. End of story.



Russell Miller
Rayn Gryphon: non sequitur. One does not follow from the other. Your premise is wrong. Christianity is not dehumanizing, even though some of its adherents have turned it into something that is.
(would follow if the premise were right...)



Rayn Gryphon
Russell Miller Jesus and his family do not, in point of fact, have a fully functioning set of genitalia among them. Xianity is dehumanizing. Get a grip. Xianity is an astronomical artifact of astronomical mind control.



Rayn Gryphon
There is no premise or conclusion you idiot. Just two thesis statements based on years of experience. Mine was not an argument. It was two declarative statements, the only tacit argument being that they were loosely correlated by the shared factor of dehumanization, as with all family, cult, social, military, prison and all institutional psychology.


[....]

The world is very psychological.

You would be surprised how many people would take exception to this statement or, failing their ability to refute it, will attempt to qualify it in such a way as to make it effectively moot.

But why?

Because certainty and psychology do not go well together.

And yet every day people convince themselves of hundreds of things that are not nearly as necessarily true as they might convince themselves they are.

And why?

Because their minds are hurt.

Bones can be hurt.

Toes can be hurt.

And minds can be hurt.

A bullet goes deep enough, a barb goes deep enough and it will crack open not only the chest cavity but also the mind.

The body and the mind are the same exact organism. The biological systems of the body are symbiotic with that of all living systems (the earth knows how to eat you, for instance, and how to feed you, and how to starve you), and the psychological systems of the body are symbiotic with all the living and celestial systems around us.

The mind uses symbolism. And Man's symbolic systems are just one if permeable grade of all living and celestial systems of cause and effect, of voice and story.

Throw a stone into a pond and it "makes a statement."

We use such figures of speech all of the time.

When we use language we are invoking an animal of all biology and psychology, which really delineate different kinds of the same mind, the same matrix of cause and effect, of force and memory.

On a strictly physical basis, the entire physical world is a memory of every force it has exerted and been exerted upon by.

What we might call the living impulse unfolds in a myriad of ways and sustains a definite blurring of cause and effect, so much so that the causation or genesis of life and its operation are virtually indistinguishable and should be to any logical or ethical person. Life can only be the Genesis and Destiny of Life. Then it is only for you to determine for yourself what that says to you and what you might like to add to that legacy.

For all we know life is forever in the throws of its genesis and articulation.

Upon this living creative intelligence that must admit like the clouds a very wide array of symbolic meaning and transformation in mind and body we have the human idea of cult and military psychology that invariably assigns a genesis to itself far and beyond its immediate operation and mandate, all of which calls for a fairly wide range of interpretation with a strangely paradoxical regulation of that interpretation by ascending and descending orders of authority to arbitrate for what something means, what causes what, and what, if anything, one should do about it - one and billions of ones.

In this way cult and military (and family, social and prison) psychology attains to a kind of mind that sets rather arbitrary values for genesis and destiny: As in "This is what we do and why." And "This is what will happen if you do not believe this way and act this way and talk this way or not this way."

And this becomes possible and even pleasurable upon the introduction of a stress into the mind and body of the constituent human element, he or she who is summarily relieved of any surviving concept of their rather prodigious place in the mental and biological field of living creative intelligence, ostensibly in order to save them from this fate which must be the same as Death of the worst kind.

So that the prime effect of any cult psychology (all psychology that we know of) is that the limits of the cult matrix are blended or alloyed and blurred into that of one's own imminent physical demise and this in itself predicated upon vastly restricting the level of correlation (and even blood flow) between the psychology of the biological world and the biology of the psychological (or celestial) world.

This fracture is like a new womb that provides for a lot of input from higher orders of the cult and a wide market of very suggestible and disoriented people convinced that this is the nature of life and that they are lucky to have someone tell them what to do, how to think and where to go whilst giving them the privilege of thinking that they are still performing these operations on even a relatively autonomous cognitive basis that provides for all of their power in life as a person. If you want to know if this is true, just try challenging this assumption and see what happens; an entirely different language will emit from the human being being questioned; and it will not be a language with any but the most faint resemblance to that of any life or logic but that of a profound mental illness (which is extremely intelligent in its own right, since it is a monumental historical effort to adapt to one's environment at all costs).

This is not hard to learn.

It is written all over the society you live in. A child can learn in. And they do every day. Because we force them to "for their own good" while we bicker upon Left and Right politics or the latest tax but never about how every mainstream and alternative news source amounts to someone only loosely using facts in order to tell you how you should think if you want to feel like a good and informed person.

You just have to read - or listen, as the case may be.

But most people do not.

Because this would be like hastening one's own social or physical demise, which are wired together in an horrific marriage of native and cult psychology and biology upon which basis an entirely new kind of language can be created, an entirely new basis for all symbolic systems for assessing, transforming and administrating for all ideas and forces and systems of cause and effect, mind and matter, memory and destiny. And might I add or need I add that this language has as little to do with the language you use every day as it has to do with anything metric of life worthy of the name.

The product of this is what we call any and all subjects of religion, psychology, philosophy and science on Earth, all of which provide for various kinds of visceral transformative insight into one's nature, origin and destiny (or legacy).

And it cannot be changed or fought or overcome.

It is a total unmitigated consolidated monopoly upon the human mind and upon the human organism. In fact, some of its most ardent zealots are those who are unaccountably convinced that they have found a fix, usually through one of the innumerable formal and informal, official and self-styled cults that invariably crop up like the illegitimate children of one another, all of whom speak the exact same language of spurious novelty and salvation from what nobody knows and everybody knows at once upon a time Inc.

A Living School is founded upon the principle that we can assess and must all that Man conceives.

And, as William Butler Yeats once wrote, "Man has created death."

Or disorientation to life.




Rayn Gryphon
Trauma most often a blinding fracture in the familial psycho-biological fabric of the Mind a kind of subsequently much-vaunted blood poisoning or as though venereal if "exceptional" corruption of natal prospects of neurological as vascular articulation of the commutative language of symbiotic blood pressure and liberty (or skeletal as psychological gravity and levity) that of a truly whole human locus of ethical, sexual, emotional, mental and celestial development and coordination.

Axiom 863 - A Living School Summarized

"If a bone is broken, it is broken. You cannot pretend it isn't broken. The human mind is broken. Folks find power in pretending otherwise."

- Rayn Gryphon,



Unconditional Love is, but for its application and attribution to animals, the veritable reveille of the developmentally challenged and codependent masses.

[...]
The brain is, I think, as much about neurological complexes as patterns of pressure played like notes by all of the various blood vessels and arteries in the brain and in every way it performs the office of respiration though every medium critical to its operation, be it electrical or vascular.

Say we received a horrifying trauma that passes out of all conscious memory as swiftly and surely as it passes through us and over us, smothering us. We (our body, we) will have to subsequently find a way to exhaust, on a perpetual and by no means merely provisional basis, the residual pressure or change in pressure dynamics through all subsequent brain development (especially since this I will say always happens to children before five but also again through other years of one's early life).

As though this trauma will be exhausted (like a nuclear explosion which is every bit as destructive to man and society across thousands of years that speak too human thought today like our own blood vessels and all commensurate living systems) through discrete packets of pressure coded into the blood vessels and the brain development they feed and inform (or would). That could be pictured like a kind of war in the brain (where all holy stories take place, in earth, sky and mind) between growth and safety, both of which we enjoy and suffer blurring into one another across a wide alphabet and culture of conflicting words and pictures, or songs of pressure and release as dependent upon their mental state as we are upon water and air. The protective development (or developmental arrest and eccentricity, baffling all prospective orbits, forces and organs of man and nature, mother and child, self and family) would have to be at least as powerful as the nuclear blast it has sustained and lost all memory of but one's entire brain and every way it speaks any other kind of language or symbolic system on Earth, most of which are born or reformed to be as wholly compatible with the wholly psychopathic brain as conceivably possible.

And so we do not necessarily have to change all brain structure, our entire sense of heaven or earth.

We might only need exhaust certain kinds of pressure (a kind of musical score about being born) by looking into the original trauma or anything like its developmental and social artifacts and improving our taste for its expanded and expanding regions of living creative intelligence.

This is what I spend every waking moment of my life doing.

Indeed. Is anyone doing anything else?




Going to Zulon
Holy shitfuck




babybobo1231
Tl;dr.




babybobo1231
Pretentious drivel. Professional commenter




Going to Zulon
I think its some sort of madness.




Robert Pepper
Rayn Gryphon, You talk in distinct certainty of what this professor believes, but I don't see your interpretation reflected in Peterson's comments. He does not say that personality determines an individual's political affiliation, but rather there is a tendency for people of particular temperaments to end up within liberal or conservative camps in a general sense. He states this at approximately 40:50. Your distaste for Freud is warranted. I get that response (near the beginning of this comment thread). But Peterson is critical of Freud too. Further, I find your reduction of Jesus as a "fictional stooge of the Roman empire" suspicious. By suspicious I mean so inflammatory that it is difficult to take you seriously. Two questions: 1) does your resentment of religion give you warrant to omit all that is positive within it? 2) How do you define cult psychology?




Joshua Lloyd
I like Peterson because he doesn't come off as a pretentious and condescending douchebag.




Rayn Gryphon
Robert Pepper So defined in another discussion but I will do it again.

First off, please understand that an "Academic" is the very last person (along with their much farmed sycophants) to make adequate provision for the astronomical transformations and corruptions of a Cybernetic-industrial society.

What we call time is not necessarily a dimension wholly bound to space, though it is, as we shall see on a far more functional basis than that of the physics of Einstein (an agent of the metaphysical military intelligence mafia operating out of Princeton University at the time with financial interests in telling and spelling time in a way bound to physical matter and the owners of its most powerful transformations and dimensions as well as the gods of mass disorientation to any but their and our most dehumanizing corruptions of whatever subsequent facility or felicity). Time was and is and will forever be as we are born with and in its veritably amniotic illimitable blood and substance a field of living creative intelligence that provides for more numinous and deeply emotional sensibilities and sensations related to the symbiosis of the overlapping celestial and terrestrial, biological and psychological range of our lives as, like our bodies, they animate, voice and endure a whole range of baffling and nourishment in a kind of language that crosses, spells and dissembles with every organ of personal and cosmic (and amniotic) breathing our physical and celestial transformation, life, birth, death and birth and life and so on as well as is spelled by the seasons and by every pulse and voice of day and night, body and mind, imagination and desire, song and knowledge god and goddess.



COSMIC Phoenix
Alex Quant The Sagnac Experiment proves the Aether. Not to mention "Dark Matter" is just a modern day name for the Aether. The supposed "Dark Matter" performs exactly the same function as the "Aether" does in the Geocentric Universe. Another term for this is "Plankton Particles" 


Axiom 324 - The Aether

Axiom 575 - The Horizon is the Sun

Video Series - The Geocentric Universe

Geocentric Universe - not flat earth
Rayn Gryphon

https://youtu.be/jsBzp5euF7M


GEOCENTRISM-Sagnac's experiment - an animated explanation
Malcolm Bowden

https://youtu.be/SWmlimH7laY

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School



"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

- Former CIA Director William Colby


''We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.''

- William Casey CIA Director 1981


Reference: Religion and Science (the false dichotomy) 


Evolutionary State of the Union Address - A Living School

All quote in

- See Axiom 865 - Creation by Annihilation (All Religious Psychosis)

What is in the mind is in the blood. Spirituality has nothing to do with being a holy as royal blood descendant of our right mind. #fuckitall


When the mind splits off from itself it adopts the unpredictable and unprovoked need to dominate somebody else with impunity, an effectively cellular and social need and reflex smuggled into any given confidence relationship, especially with groups (or cults) that absolve one of all proportional knowledge or responsibility questioned on pain of just such domination of one kind or another. And any very competent command of one's own brain function must question any very popular form of psychosis.

A good example of how this is farmed en masse is the Big Bang, in direct if covert reference to the sexually orgasmic process (Big Bang and Black Hole) of one's genesis or conception as a place in the mind that holds out tremendous living knowledge (that of the congress of a man and a woman who offer the blood of all that moves and receives life as a holy mother and father, body and mind here and hereafter) along with the power to expand the mind's capacity for the pleasure and knowledge in and of one's self and one's entire family line speaking across every orbit and bound of earth and sky and a life (in our life or spirit) that continues on into the next life in a different if wholly compatible manner and language with which we entered into and grew into this one - a life and a language stolen from you.

This is all the more "enlightening" when one considers the truly celestial psychology of every facet of our physical birth, the biological and psychological nursery (or punctuated lack thereof) of our infant lives and minds and indeed of the living creative intelligence in all that is mother, father and me.

The Big Bang theory can be so alluring (along with every theory that hangs upon it like Jesus hangs upon the torture device that is really the most horrific story ever told to the developing human mind) precisely because it is such a consoling story (like the Biblical genesis in self-annihilation or the Biblical evolutionary genesis in annihilation) for and about the explosive destruction though critical radial augmentation of our native family celestial temple of conception and knowledge and the entire dimension of the mind of a child, of the very pleasure in and of ourselves and that of everyone else on Earth.

Today I sat beside a loving father who answered his child's question about the motion of the sun by saying, though a necessary truth, the movement of the earth around the sun, making it appear to go up and down, something neither this father nor yours has next to no actual evidence of, whether this be true or not. True or not, this child heard a perfectly good story as though it were necessarily more than that for no reason in particular. This were a genesis in the self-annihilation of purely logical logic, if not our entire orientation to and coordination with all space, time and sex heritage (and celestial family psychology still celebrated by annihilation every Christmas Day, Labour Day and Easter.


- Reference: Axiom 699 - Principles of Vitruvian Stellarium


I will quote an expert on cult psychology:

An excerpt from an article by Ivan Tyrrell, first published in 1993, that explores Dr. Arthur Deikman’s enlightening work on cult behaviour.

Why people join cults:

“Cults form and thrive,” says Deikman, “not because people are crazy, but because they have two kinds of wishes. They want a meaningful life, to serve God or humanity; and they want to be taken care of, to feel protected and secure, to find a home. The first motives may be laudable and constructive, but the latter exert a corrupting effect, enabling cult leaders to elicit behaviour directly opposite to the idealistic vision with which members entered the group.”

31:30

Problem Professors
YouTube, Sargon of Akkad
https://youtu.be/TCneKDp95Yc


Also See

Political Correctness: Locus of all Cults




Daniel Lassander
Yeah you could be right about that, and i do recognize it at least to some rational degree.

Now in defence of my own ego here i would say that i recognised or what he said resonated with me in such a way that i would suspect that he might sit on more useful information.




Rayn Gryphon
Daniel Lassander He's just a guy who gets paid to bullshit students who never question him.

I would be shocked if he wasn't psychotic.




Word of Jester
Rayn Gryphon take your meds




Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
If by medicines you mean clean air, good food and healthy and inspiring relationships, I do every day.

How about you?





Word of Jester
Nevermind, you must be an actor getting into a character or something, sorry for suggesting you had issues




Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
People who are forced to lie to themselves (play roles in order to gain safety and acceptance from primary blood relations) are much more likely to have a chemical yen for the disordered thought of others, of society as a whole.

Multiply this by the narcotic magnification of billions of people and you get the world.





Robert Pepper
Thanks for responding. You wrote a lot of information there.

Your opening statement is worth a comment or two:

"First off, please understand that an "Academic" is the very last person (along with their much farmed sycophants) to make adequate provision for the astronomical transformations and corruptions of a Cybernetic-industrial society."

I presume that by sycophants that you include me in that mix merely for questioning you on these topics. I could be wrong, but to start off with an insult doesn't help the reader take you seriously. I think it is possible for many of the people following Peterson to be possessed by his ideas because they do not question him, as you have indicated above. However, I also believe that people can maintain a value of criticizing one's own heroes more harshly than people whom we find in disagreement. Both options are available.

The "very last person" is again inflammatory language and very challenging to look past. So Donald Trump's opinion of modernity is more important than Peterson? (I say with humour) I get the distrust when it comes to modern academics, but your statements seem hasty and unreasonable.

Next: The way in which you speak of Time reminds me of something like a pre-Socratic, post-Kantian view of space and time. That may be off but the essentialist notions running through your speech makes it difficult to not think of it in a pre-socratic fashion; in addition, the mind-dependent Kantian view of the world.
Is that a fair comparison?

Next: Your take on creation sounds very Jungian, something that Peterson would probably agree with, particularly your take (I'm assuming this is all your work) on the implicit sexual nature of a Big Bang (The archetypal feminine).

Well, from my studies years ago, I learned that a cult is really difficult to define. If I join a sports team or sports fan club for the purpose of infusing meaning into my life, the mere fact that I am thus rendered vulnerable to persuasive leaders doesn't mean that I cannot use my cognitive abilities any different from when I entered the group. I am often very critical of my favourite sports teams for deviating from the team's philosophy, or from the comic book universe that has been previously constructed.

Thoughts?





Rayn Gryphon
+Robert Pepper
My statement is borne out by years of research.

It was and is a measured conclusion about any institutionalized mode of life that must relieve people of their most liberal articulation of their native locus of whole human sexual, ethical, emotional, mental and even celestial development and coordination.

Is there evidence of anything else?

To enter a school is to enter a theater of the grotesque and lose one's memory of even adding one's suspension of disbelief to the animation of its however competitive or collaborative gods and dogmas, successions of whose death and resurrection festoon the pages of our greatest if bloodiest tracts of even modern civilization.

We are born into such a world and are forced to assimilate it into our cells and those of our family psychology for tens of thousands of years.

So I speak as one who has dedicated a quarter of a century of his life to assessing the scale and nature of human violence.

So very little impresses me about most anything else said or published, especially if it is popular.

I have been in many cults throughout my life and as a member of the human race I seriously doubt you have never been in one or are not in multiple cults at any given time of your life concurrently.

Just the fact that you would claim as much tells me that you are well and truly fucked.

How many years have your ancestors worked for the bank for nothing but more debt to foist upon the shoulder of their young, people progressively less able to even be concerned about this inflationary trend upon which most surviving human agency is wholly predicated?

Take a moment.

Pause for the cause. 





Robert Pepper
Where did I claim not to be part of a cult?




Rayn Gryphon
+Robert Pepper
Nice talking to you. My time is at a premium today. 





Robert Pepper
\Good talking with you. I can see that you lost an argument thus time is rendered precious elsewhere. The sign of a cult leader.



Rayn Gryphon
+Robert Pepper
Got me. Nail me up now quick before Muhammad is done fucking a 9 year old girl and playing with her menstruating pussy, all of which is written in the Haddith.





"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School





For knots in agèd trees forgotten letters in the bound
Exalted pages of the greatest fables all the Earth
Relieved, in league with priests and armies, children of the sound
Of their own voices joined the song and knowledge of the Universe;
How now by leaps and bounds inured the nourishment of ills
That suffer and enjoy the company a score of men
And women as consoled cajoled by fables that fulfilled
Their meager rations of the fabric of their mind instead
Of facing much the more the menace of themselves the scourge
The blackest depths of space and time a hole that wholly circumscribed
The death and birth the womb of stars the Heavens and the Earth
The Sun and Moon of all the language of the human mind
Bleeds into that of nature, the Hereafter into thee
This pearl of Earth the center of the Universe and there,
That world beyond, that mother and that father for whom we
The Here of the Hereafter bleed, in turn, the Great Beyond of Heaven's everywhere,
For what can live inside the mind had richness born of every tree
And this amidst the congress of the stars, the seeds, and baths
Of light and water darkness fathomed by the jubilee
The laughter of a child heir the blood of all these in Man's
Alive with that desire, song and knowledge spanned the gulf
The genesis and consummation of that spirit lights
The skies (the eyes of eastern kindred parents) the minds of limpid pools encourage and repulse
Successive forms of fleeting bliss and sorrow that benights
These organs of the surest song of reason or renown
As sensible as far beyond the grasp that blood's resolve
Inspired as that little child by its every bound (its every sound)
Upon the lips that form upon the marriage Eve and Adam psalm
As heir as not the medicines of Man's and nature's force
And fullness stretch the far horizon married as the womb
The very names of Eve and A-Dam, Whorus and the gourds
These cups of every spell of blood these forces organs Sun and Moon
To live, to breathe and not to yield our bleeding with so great
Unfathomable reaches mind with mind conceives and consummates.






Paradise Was - A Living Epic Poetry




COSMIC Phoenix
Alex Quant The Sagnac Experiment proves the Aether. Not to mention "Dark Matter" is just a modern day name for the Aether. The supposed "Dark Matter" performs exactly the same function as the "Aether" does in the Geocentric Universe. Another term for this is "Plankton Particles" 


Axiom 324 - The Aether

Axiom 575 - The Horizon is the Sun

Video Series - The Geocentric Universe

Geocentric Universe - not flat earth
Rayn Gryphon

https://youtu.be/jsBzp5euF7M


GEOCENTRISM-Sagnac's experiment - an animated explanation
Malcolm Bowden

https://youtu.be/SWmlimH7laY

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School



"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

- Former CIA Director William Colby


''We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.''

- William Casey CIA Director 1981


Reference: Religion and Science (the false dichotomy) 


Evolutionary State of the Union Address - A Living School

 






Too Yoked
Rayn Gryphon Can you dumb what you're saying down a little bit? So what's the meaning of life?




Rayn Gryphon
Too Yoked Yours to dissemble and spell with every organ of your blood and breath.

For in the language and land (measure for measure of successive generations or narcotic corruptions of heaven and earth, of all celestial family heritage) of a Cybernetic-industrial society your guilt (a homophone of gilt) is gold from measures of money to measures (AU or astronomical units of cosmic space linked to Newtonian Heliocentrism) of space trained every one by every religion, science and spirituality upon extracting and animating with all surviving human biological and psychological industry through every church, bank and school for the glorified extraction of human capital the collateral for all wealth on Earth at roughly 12 Billion dollars per debt slave come member of a free democracy as popularized by the son of Sigmund Freud and his sister.





Too Yoked
What




Rayn Gryphon
Too Yoked You were born into a drug-, debt- and death-addled international metaphysical military intelligence penal colony thousands of years in the making.

You cannot get out. And every attempt to only improves it.

How do you like it?





Too Yoked
Oh I see. Yea, that sounds about right.  



Leith H.
I think this dude is a flat earther or something like that...


Marc
lol. Hey Bartender I'll have what he's having.




Alexander Camlin
Rayn Gryphon "when the mind splits off from itself it adopts the unpredictable and unprovoked need to dominate somebody else with impunity..."

A painful self-diagnosis in the form of projection.

Rayn, I hope that you are well, brother, and know that there are people who care about you. I hope that you find some peace within your mind. It is possible. I hope that you are able to go through this day with an awareness of what a miracle you are and what a blessing it is to be alive.





Rayn Gryphon
+Alexander Camlin
To add to that quote, the subject becomes hopelessly dependent upon any even mere suggestion of an authority upon whom to hang their sense of reality, an authority that arbitrates for what is true or false without any mediating influence from one's own cognitive faculties.

Most people take most of their mental universe on faith (or by authority, which is the same thing). This in itself betrays a diminished capacity for autonomous cognitive function (or for making distinctions between what they have determined for themselves and what others have determined for them, or between what is necessarily true and what is not necessarily true) and so an increased propensity for unprovoked aggression (or wholly unpredictable and unprovoked lapses in comprehension skills). 


This is, arguably, the entire purpose of any church (or school) for extracting human capital.

Do any of you know who the Pied Piper is?











Rayn Gryphon (from "why Jordan Peterson Still believes in God")
+JP Harper
Orthodox or antique gods are themselves corruptions of the wholly interchangeable congress of anywhere from the most numinous to the most profane congress of every organ, force and orbit of our blood and mind (and its every sense and memory stories with which all cosmic cause and effect relationships are built up, spelled and dissembled by every biological and celestial organ of mind and body, of living creative intelligence and human heritage).

So all antique gods (of science or religious dogma) are always top-down.

But the muses, like their ancestral roots, go up and down interchangeably across and beyond and from the very wells of all sense and reason.





Ficojepet
the Christianity you're talking about is wittgenstein's ladder-esque model for the masses, he said he spent his entire life thinking about it to get at that level of understanding, your average person is not going to do that but frankly he doesn't need to in order to reap the benefits
also you're missing one important fact and that is being a christian is first and foremost about following the teachings of Jesus Christ





Rayn Gryphon
+Ficojepet
Passing on incorporating and so ratifying as divine every agent and beneficiary of the public torture, humiliation and execution of a human child precisely because they are so good and precisely because everyone else is such an offense to the most intelligent, merciful, powerful and loving being in existence.

Don't bandy the words JC around me and think you are going to win anything but your own however narcotic self-hatred.

Go fish.





Ficojepet
wew lad
I'm not even christian





Rayn Gryphon
+Ficojepet
Thank Satan and all his whores for that.





Ficojepet
huh?




Rayn Gryphon
+Ficojepet
Boldly going where no man has gone before - for a massive shit on the Bible, the Qu'uran, a zen Buddhist monk and Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.

And we all said Amen. 








seelefantman commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  7:22 AM

fuck those pricks dropping into the lecture like 5 minutes after beginning.





Rayn Gryphon
seelefantman Usual. No worries.




Turquoise Cheetah
seelefantman That's college for you. Sometimes people can't find parking, sometimes people have classes on the other side of campus. Don't assume everyone walking in is a douche who overslept, though that is typically the case.




Rayn Gryphon
Turquoise Cheetah I would walk out after the first ten minutes.

"An engineer of the spirit?"

This sounds like a mechanistic view of a social scientist.

Can't believe people are still taking his courses.

7:30 Freud fucked his sister and made Eddie Bernays who gave us Democracy as cultural genocide.

All Freud's theory came from his wanting to fuck his mother and kill his father, assuming everyone else felt the same way.

Typical fucking social psychologist.

15:30 If personality predicts political orientation then it can follow that political climates (social and religious engineering) can induce personality.

But he is not making any provision for this, which is deadly wrong.

This is an especially sophistry precisely because this pundit touts the ideal of the Divine Individual, an ideal he has absolutely no qualms about foisting upon his retinue of passive receptacles or followers nee students, even as he just finished lecturing us on how difficult it is to conceptualize ideals.





blueone black
Rayn Gryphon For someone uninterested in this lecture you seem to have spent quite some time commenting on various threads




Sergio Montserrat (Puntox)
When you have 1 minute to switch classrooms, there should be space to arrive late and not be reprimanded by those who have a looser schedule.




Sergio Montserrat (Puntox)
Hey, Rayn Gryphon!
Come on, pal.... you can ceetainly do better than copying and pasting your comment from elsewhere.





Rayn Gryphon
Sergio Montserrat Does that make it any less germane?

Are you a man of reason?





babybobo1231
Rayn Gryphon You know, I can't help but feel you're awful pretentious.




stinkyboomboom
Some snowflakes are so fluffy, it takes them a lot longer to get where they're going.




George Corkery
Rayn Gryphon careful with all that edge, you might hurt yourself.




Rayn Gryphon
George Corkery Codependant much?




trucid2
Rayn Gryphon If personality predicts political orientation then it can follow that political climates (social and religious engineering) can induce personality.
A causes B therefore B causes A? Nice logic there.





Rayn Gryphon
trucid2 Nope. Read what I wrote again. I am standing on solid ground. Open your fucking ears. Do you go to school or what?

Don't waste my fucking time.





Word of Jester
Rayn Gryphon peterson is a clinical psychologist




Word of Jester
one who has actually criticized social psychology on many different topics. btw: saying you're a man of reason, that you stand on solid ground (basically just repeating that you are right) doesn't make this so.




Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
Peterson is clinically insane.





Word of Jester
man i don't even know if i wanna talk to someone so pathologically uninterested in other perspectives but i just wanna say that Peterson didn't defend Freud. he took one little element of his theory (id, ego, superego), an element which has been used by Jung and Jungians and all types of other thinkers who are either criticizing it or just using it because it's some type of distinction that clealry hold value in modern thinking,whether you agree fully or not. it's hardly a hardcore Freudian statement to refer to Freud who has had a lot of impact on psychology whether you like it or not




Word of Jester
+Rayn Gryphon​ he could probably help you get through some of your very apparent issues though





Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
A little experiment. Say you had a child who was ailing in mind. Would you wish to take him to a man who wanted to fuck his mother, his nanny and did eventually fuck his sister (with whom he bore Edward Bernays) and who was acutely interested in his daughter's masturbation and was addicted to cocaine?

Would you want your children taught his "theories?"

Get serious.

You are an insult to human intelligence.






Word of Jester
but he's not teaching anybody his theories so all you said fell flat :/ he's not gonna deny the existence of Freud, he made a reference to it without any value judgment. you put a lot of effort into it,though, and that's important too




Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
Adolf Hitler had some good ideas, too.

What is the compulsion you have to lionize someone whom you have never met?

Did your Daddy abandon you?

Were you not good enough?

Do tell.





Word of Jester
heyo you just referred to adolf hitler. fucking neonazi




Word of Jester
fascist scum




Rayn Gryphon
+Word of Jester
I will take that as a resounding Yes on all counts.





Word of Jester
Ay man you're clearly a smart dude, you just got me dead to rights




Word of Jester
sucks that such a smart dude would spend his time at neonazi rallies calling for the death of an entire race of people, but i respect you nonetheless




Benjamin Rood
seelefantman I sense someone is high in trait Conscientiousness. That's exactly what I thought too, btw, and I'm open AND neurotic AND introverted as well as conscientious so go figure.




Rayn Gryphon
+Benjamin Rood
Riveting.








Coventry Wildeheart commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  6:37 AM

I am sooooo relieved to see you still lecturing as the loss to society would be too much to think about.




Rayn Gryphon
Coventry Wildeheart Jesus lives. Thank God.




Mohammed Hanif
Rayn Gryphon am i going to have to read your snarky remarks thruout the comments? why are you bothering? only acolytes need listen or those with an open mind. you obviously think he's spouting rubbish so, sincerely, why are you here?




Rayn Gryphon
Mohammed Hanif To witness people who like to claim a commanding knowledge of free speech and reason attempt to censor someone upon no more substantial or rational a basis than their own poor opinion of him. QED.




Mohammed Hanif
+Rayn Gryphon​ do you feel you are being censored? Who are these people you refer to who claim they have a commanding knowledge of free speech and reason? Who has a poor opinion of you?

None of those follow from my questions about encountering tour snarky renarks in the comments or that your motivations for doing so given you obvious dislike for the content of the video.

You seem to be a very prickly and defensive.





Rayn Gryphon
Mohammed Hanif I suggest you make an even feable attempt to gain some if little acquaintance with the subject before telling other people what is relevant or not to the subject and doctrine under consideration.

Or has your religion relieved you of that obligation?

If so, Allahu Akbar.





Mohammed Hanif
+Rayn Gryphon do you actually bother to address anyone else's assertions or do you live in a bubble and project your inadequacies where its not wanted?

Perhaps you need to get back into your safe space.

Finally, what has my religion got to do with it? You bigot. You know about my beliefs. Dud you base it on my name? Pathetic. What if I had used a Sikh name as a username? Would you have made a fool of yourself by mocking Sikhism?

I doubt it. You see I use my name to trigger knobheads like you.





Rayn Gryphon
Mohammed Hanif If you don't want to have a rational debate, don't lament those who do and expect them to care.




Mohammed Hanif
+Rayn Gryphon you opted out of rational debate with your resort to crude stereotyping.




Rayn Gryphon
Mohammed Hanif Oh. Is that what happened? Sure. That would be the easiest possible thing to prove. Just supply us with any evidence of you referring to any of the substance of anything I have actually argued prior to your questioning my even bothering to speak at all you fucking moron.

Get back on Allah's tits. 




Rs 225
Rayn Gryphon what, pray-tell, would be the problem if Muhamed were Muslim? You really sound like a stupid goon here buddy… and seeing how most of the people who watch this will be intelligent, everybody can see you have your pants down. If you're going to try to be offensive for the sake of offence, tried to sprinkle in a little bit more intelligence. You're boring.




Rayn Gryphon
+Rs 225
I resemble that remark. I for one think the Mooslum people are very nice folks when they aren't throwing the homos off of roofs or stoning rape victims to death.

Allahu Akbar.





Book Forge True dat.
hcirs f

Rayn Gryphon Are you trying to start a cult or just promoting one?




Rayn Gryphon
hcirs f Would you be willing to have a rational debate about anything that I have actually said?

If not, I hesitate to point out that, logically speaking, that does not exactly put you in the best possible position to make any very definite claims about the motivation or character of anyone.

Can you understand that? 






hcirs f
Rayn Gryphon I feel like you are trying to sound more intelligent than you actually are, and by attempting to deflect the question I asked you, further invalidate your own purports. You're trying to stand on the shoulders of giants, move on before you get brushed off.




Rayn Gryphon
hcirs f I will take that as a resounding No.




hcirs f
Rayn Gryphon Your videos are garbage, your opinions are vague and intentionally provocative, you spout off impressive words as if they carry any legitimate meaning in the context that you use them. I'd love to continue this battle of wits and "debate" you, but you pose no actual feasible arguments, or even points of discussion and therefore have come unarmed. Can YOU understand THAT?













Rayn Gryphon commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  7:31 AM

Wonder what the University thinks of him publishing this online, since this is owned by the University.




NappaTheProducer
Apparently not much. He's done it since 2014. Not like it'd actually stop people from enrolling in the college which would be their concern.




Rayn Gryphon
NappaTheProducer Nobody who knew anything about life would lecture to intellectual subordinates who are under the yoke of loans and looming social taboos about not being sufficiently indoctrinated in order to be sufficiently successful receptacles for the continued extraction and mass incredulous animation by every flag of the corporate extraction of human capital in perpetuity, flattering and baffling their surviving autonomous cognitive function with a promise of liberty mired in pathological self-hatred come customary insults to and humiliation of one's blood heritage and voice in living creative intelligence and native celestial family psychology in a society as religiously as scientifically kept poised upon a bloody brink of perpetual near collapse veritably at war with every natural instinct with which a child is born and to which we force our most vulnerable citizenry to conform under only the most Herculean duress, duress that could not possibly fail to stymie the courage and whole brain development of the most battle-hardened combat soldier, let alone that of a wee child.

Very early in our young lives as children and as human beings, we learn at a cellular and emotional level that we cannot entirely meaning we cannot trust the people upon whom we depend and whom we basically have to trust and as though we can trust most at any and every subsequently holy degree for all that holy means having to do with the ultimate or whole nature of our life and thought and pleasure or not in and of ourselves as we spell and dissemble with our every generation of breath the very language of our lives and minds, of our living creative intelligence and blood heritage. This sends every human child into a certain ring of whatever hell is real. And these early gods and goddesses, holy fathers and mothers, never wish to talk to us about this and often even demonstrate a violent aversion to doing so should we even appear to be a moderately reasonable and ethically-discriminating if truly loving spirit. So for all intents and purposes they die and we die, are orphaned and aborted by the very people who subsequently adopt us into as we adopt and even wholly incorporate into our body their language and their family as though we owe them our very lives and minds or what is left of them in order to "pay down the debt (Dead)."

So go figure that the world is as fucked up as it is and so many people so completely convinced that they are going to save it from themselves in the name of every narcotic religion, spirituality and science of the hatred of our mothers and fathers and their mothers and fathers and theirs for as long as suns have risen and set on this world and the next, on and of the wholly symbiotic biological and celestial realms of ourselves.


Axiom 880 - End Game However Felicitous Science, Religion & Spirituality


How could we ever allow our own children to believe that the language of their very lives (of their voice of their blood heritage in living creative intelligence here and hereafter), of their every birth, death, desire, sorrow, anger and laughter, was not the most holy and most scientific language that ever existed or would ever exist?

As successful as it is, modern civilization is the resounding answer to that question, and whether we like it or not.





Sergio Montserrat (Puntox)
Rayn Gryphon Nice wall of text, pal.
It's a shame you try to win arguments by copying and pasting large paragraphs instead of typing them concisely.

Now, I guess the University doesn't mind much, since other Us have posted entire courses in their sites and haven't gone out of business.
Having a course or two online can pique interest and attract potential students. So, that's free advertisement.




Rayn Gryphon
Sergio Montserrat Text does require some effort to read. I am afraid that, your personal objections to one side, nobody has yet found a way around this.



[To add to that, the subject becomes hopelessly dependent upon any even mere suggestion of an authority upon whom to hang their sense of reality, an authority that arbitrates for what is true or false without any mediating influence from one's own cognitive faculties.

[Most people take most of their mental universe on faith (or by authority, which is the same thing). This in itself betrays a diminished capacity for autonomous cognitive function (or for making distinctions between what they have determined for themselves and what others have determined for them, or between what is necessarily true and what is not necessarily true) and so an increased propensity for unprovoked aggression (or wholly unpredictable and unprovoked lapses in comprehension skills).]


This is, arguably, the entire purpose of any church (or school) for extracting human capital.




calohtar
Rayn Gryphon You begin with unsubstantiated claims and build upon them with further unsubstantiated claims, all in service of producing a hierarchy by which you can subject people and phenomenon to arbitrary judgements while maintaining (at least to yourself) the veneer of well founded analysis. However, as I already mentioned, the ideas simply to not stand up to scrutiny. The few passable insights are interspersed among truisms in a matrix compose of a rather petulant sort of egotism that admits no truth other than what the self deems positive and no fault other than what the self deems unpleasant. In short, the text appears to be the product of accumulated whims, retroactively justified and therefore poorly founded and incoherent to an objective observer who does not share in the author's prejudices. It says many nice sounding things, but utterly fails to make the case for those things being valid. In the hands of a better communicator, even this flawed perspective might hold some sway, but the method of writing, though superficially sound in the verbal sense, fails not only in the realm of content but in persuasion as well. It reads as the writing of someone more interested in convincing themselves of what they already desire to be true rather than someone with a firm grasp on reality and can therefore relate their understanding in clear terms to other minds. Perhaps this is overstepping, but I get the striking sense of a mind that is struggling to create an alternate framework of faith and authority for personal use (perhaps out of prior failure with more orthodox frameworks?), which explains the superficial and unsubstantiated claims about faith and authority. As we all know, "You shall have no gods before me," "one man cannot have two masters," dual citizenship aside. It is natural that an individual in the grips of a particular faith would strive to attack competitors despite the apparent lack of substantive arguments. It is not an attempt at understanding, or even really damaging the rivals. It is merely a personal attempt to sustain the faith and deflect the beckons of reflection. For that purpose, I am sure you have the rhetorical ability and rudimentary skill at logic to defend whatever personal beliefs you with you hold, even if you must resort to sophistry to do so. Some people will always gravitate to impressive sounding but vacuous gesticulation to some supposed truth, but those who lack the natural fascination with verbose mysteries will find the presentation totally unconvincing and uninteresting. That is no matter though, because it is, once again, an exercise meant to sustain a personal faith more than an attempt at genuine insight. It serves its purpose well. In that sense, it deserves some measured respect.




Rayn Gryphon
calohtar My Kingdom Come is Psychology (and Biology) 101.

The best way to get out of the wholly unchallenged monopoly upon human thought we generally call religion and spirituality is not to become an atheist or, as in the equally contrived political theater, to just pick a side and stick to it, but to take an inventory of all of the things that you know or have faith that some one does know in but an wholly competent fashion (or faith in any authority) and take careful note of all that you do not actually know by your own faculties and senses, whether it is true or not, fiction or fact.

For there is nobody who is not touched by religion, whatever even illusory (or delusional) protection from religion (or religion) one has contracted for. And that is quite as awesome a fact as any claim made by any holy scripture of religion (or science) on Earth.

Society has all kinds of dreams of freedom but nowhere to go.

That is its greatest genius - and yours.

And I offer it to you for free.

All it will cost you is nothing like what it has already cost you.



Just getting rid of control, while titillating, is only that

Systems of control work so well because they give so many people a sense of somewhere to go. For you and your kindred, that means really defining what you are going away from not toward. To focus on the face of the world is to focus on your face and your heritage, your voice.

I want to hear that. 





Twinkling stars would blend into their every crier homes
And gardens suffered and enjoyed the voice of earth and sky
A strange and eminently graceful form of beauty all thine own
The transformation of forever ever passing by
Commanded by the heir a fortune quite beyond the weights
And measures of a currency that bleeds into the tongues
Of Sun and Moon and Star, of winter, spring and autumn rays
That fight like stems of living pleasure out of winter drums
Festooned the organs of the ear, the fear and wonder of
A child by successions of their graduation from
A past by turns relieved of words of care that could be heard
Coherent as the dawn of day the morning of the Soul
Who, cradled in the home of light and air and mist, returns
An Heaven portents all the paths with which we gleam and grow
The winter and the spring of veins throughout the brain the press
Of pounding forces and their coursers populate the vault
Of heaven and the human mind with stories we pretend
Had any genesis but best inveigled their assault
Upon a child in the womb and in the school of life
So many angels of their gods of mom and dad were conned
The organs of some oddly sweet horrific Paradise
Whose phases ran like faces lived and died upon the face a God
Inhuman voices make their voice to dance upon the keys
Of freedom by the beat of drums of war and former selves
Resort to speaking on behalf of ancestors and thee
Whose native voice belonged to God and to nobody else
As smuggled into smuggled out of its own prison wombs
Whose walls had closed with visions those of prisons in the mind
Converted to the Earth and Heaven swollen with the truce
Advances with its thirst for human blood by every kind -
And I would say that story first began I learned to speak,
My words resounding through these organs through mine organs bleed.




 




Axiom 882 - Graduating from Cybernetic-Industrial Preschool (and every school)




calohtar
Rayn Gryphon To apply some of my own criticism myself and condense my rambling

1. Perception of truth in communication is predicated on language
2. With sufficient verbal skill, any narrative can be made to appear compelling to a particular subjective perspective, regardless of it's truth content
2.a. The sign of something being actually true is that it does NOT rely heavily on the narrative element to create a subjective framework. It approximates reality as it really is, and can therefore be expressed simply, in ways that can be verified. It is compelling to most people, rather than merely to specific people.

3. An individual with sufficient verbal skill can impose internal consistency on any worldview they want, regardless of factual basis.
4. If this verbal adept individual has suffered trauma by particular archetypes (the military, loss of innocence, faith) he has the option of coping with these traumas not through reconciliation with reality but with the construction of an alternate personal reality that interprets and revalues these archetypes in a way that negates or demonizes their effect in the individual's mind, whole simultaneously imbuing heroic meaning to the struggle to overthrow these archetypes. With sufficient verbal skill, a story can be made that is nice sounding to the individual and boasts superficial complexity, though not genuine insight (usually. There are exceptions, especially in the art world).
5. You

And for this, I will be blocked rather than offered a refutation or substantive rebuke.





Rayn Gryphon
calohtar Actually, I very much doubt that anyone could survive that kind of criticism.

And therefore I applaud it.

Blocked my ass.

You are an oasis in the desert.

You have some skill at composition. You even emulate quite well the didactic meter of your mentor.

That demonstrates a willingness to learn.

That being said, a psychosis (which is what you are describing - and what a wonderfully lurid description it was) is not predicated on the effect that one is attempting to achieve but an indelible impression of the very insult that has already been sustained. And it is not just demonic, true. It is also the voice of wisdom - but only to the degree that it is listened to.

Listen. I think you have heard something. Listen to your own words if not to mine, for they shall guide you far better than I ever could.




 




 


Lord Fupa commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  6:30 AM

Thanks for the upload Dr.Peterson I hope you're doing well



Rayn Gryphon
Lord Fupa Yes. I hope your new career as Jesus Christ reaches a successful conclusion.




Youtubemusica
All hail to our Lord and Saviour, Jordan B. Peterson, and to the apostle of Reason on whose back he shall build his church, Sam Harris .




NoGoo Gooplus
Can't wait for the Sam Harris interview tomorrow. I really hope they set aside 3 hours, and don't talk around or over each other.




Rayn Gryphon
NoGoo Gooplus I know, right. Nothing I like more than sating my desire to point out though an immunity to the unassailable failings of my counterparts on the largely contrived political and religious spectrum.







"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School





For knots in agèd trees forgotten letters in the bound
Exalted pages of the greatest fables all the Earth
Relieved, in league with priests and armies, children of the sound
Of their own voices joined the song and knowledge of the Universe;
How now by leaps and bounds inured the nourishment of ills
That suffer and enjoy the company a score of men
And women as consoled cajoled by fables that fulfilled
Their meager rations of the fabric of their mind instead
Of facing much the more the menace of themselves the scourge
The blackest depths of space and time a hole that wholly circumscribed
The death and birth the womb of stars the Heavens and the Earth
The Sun and Moon of all the language of the human mind
Bleeds into that of nature, the Hereafter into thee
This pearl of Earth the center of the Universe and there,
That world beyond, that mother and that father for whom we
The Here of the Hereafter bleed, in turn, the Great Beyond of Heaven's everywhere,
For what can live inside the mind had richness born of every tree
And this amidst the congress of the stars, the seeds, and baths
Of light and water darkness fathomed by the jubilee
The laughter of a child heir the blood of all these in Man's
Alive with that desire, song and knowledge spanned the gulf
The genesis and consummation of that spirit lights
The skies (the eyes of eastern kindred parents) the minds of limpid pools encourage and repulse
Successive forms of fleeting bliss and sorrow that benights
These organs of the surest song of reason or renown
As sensible as far beyond the grasp that blood's resolve
Inspired as that little child by its every bound (its every sound)
Upon the lips that form upon the marriage Eve and Adam psalm
As heir as not the medicines of Man's and nature's force
And fullness stretch the far horizon married as the womb
The very names of Eve and A-Dam, Whorus and the gourds
These cups of every spell of blood these forces organs Sun and Moon
To live, to breathe and not to yield our bleeding with so great
Unfathomable reaches mind with mind conceives and consummates.






 


 







Too Yoked
Rayn Gryphon Can you dumb what you're saying down a little bit? So what's the meaning of life?




Rayn Gryphon
Too Yoked Yours to dissemble and spell with every organ of your blood and breath.

For in the language and land (measure for measure of successive generations or narcotic corruptions of heaven and earth, of all celestial family heritage) of a Cybernetic-industrial society your guilt (a homophone of gilt) is gold from measures of money to measures (AU or astronomical units of cosmic space linked to Newtonian Heliocentrism) of space trained every one by every religion, science and spirituality upon extracting and animating with all surviving human biological and psychological industry through every church, bank and school for the glorified extraction of human capital the collateral for all wealth on Earth at roughly 12 Billion dollars per debt slave come member of a free democracy as popularized by the son of Sigmund Freud and his sister.





Too Yoked
What




Rayn Gryphon
Too Yoked You were born into a drug-, debt- and death-addled international metaphysical military intelligence penal colony thousands of years in the making.

You cannot get out. And every attempt to only improves it.

How do you like it?





Too Yoked
Oh I see. Yea, that sounds about right.




Leith H.
I think this dude is a flat earther or something like that...


Marc
lol. Hey Bartender I'll have what he's having.




Alexander Camlin
Rayn Gryphon "when the mind splits off from itself it adopts the unpredictable and unprovoked need to dominate somebody else with impunity..."

A painful self-diagnosis in the form of projection.

Rayn, I hope that you are well, brother, and know that there are people who care about you. I hope that you find some peace within your mind. It is possible. I hope that you are able to go through this day with an awareness of what a miracle you are and what a blessing it is to be alive.





Rayn Gryphon
+Alexander Camlin
To add to that quote, the subject becomes hopelessly dependent upon any even mere suggestion of an authority upon whom to hang their sense of reality, an authority that arbitrates for what is true or false without any mediating influence from one's own cognitive faculties.

Most people take most of their mental universe on faith (or by authority, which is the same thing). This in itself betrays a diminished capacity for autonomous cognitive function (or for making distinctions between what they have determined for themselves and what others have determined for them, or between what is necessarily true and what is not necessarily true) and so an increased propensity for unprovoked aggression (or wholly unpredictable and unprovoked lapses in comprehension skills). 


This is, arguably, the entire purpose of any church (or school) for extracting human capital.

Do any of you know who the Pied Piper is?





night time cool
Hello Gryphon,
One must ask. Instead of dwelling in the comment section here, why don't you make a video discussing these things? since you want to educate people, and you seem to have this enormous reservoir of knowledge?

Regarding all of your long winded and grandiose letters here, I feel obliged to state one crucial thing. From all my observations of J.P, the message is: Sort yourself out
in conjunction with
Truth without Fear, or Truth at all costs.

If it doesn't sit well with you, I recommend first sending him an email and having a meaningful discussion.





Rayn Gryphon
night time cool Captain Obvious Here:

If my or anyone's objections (objections so beneath or beyond you) can "pull him down" or "destabilize his credibility" then he is not nearly the man you seem to want to insist he is.

Only weaklings run from objections to their beliefs or seek to protect their lords from them.





night time cool
I don't think you have disproven anything hence, "Trying to destabilize"

[Author's note: Night time cool changed the inciting comment after I left the above response, striking phrases like "you are pulling him down" and "trying to destabilize him" from the record.]

If there is an organic apple that has a few scuffs on it, I don't think that makes the apple bad. I noticed you have had nothing positive to say, though there were many truthful things he said. do those truths not merit a mention in your criticisms rather than only focussing on the barely questionable aspect of a more or less wholesome thing?





*Frnkn shw
PhatherThyme well I haven't read what Gryphon said about religion, but reading your comment it just comes off as hopelessly defensive, and I doubt you have anything worthy on which to base your passive attacks on nihilism and/or atheism




night time cool
You didn't really deal with my initial message, only to focus the least important detail, almost a side-note.




Pelton P
agree. go to college to get a career, not for therapy. a major problem with our culture today is that there are too many people with useless educations. this is useless education. we have too many people who can't do anything but talk about how they feel. if we would have sent these idiots to trade school maybe the real world would keep them from getting depressed. if you want therapy, get it outside college- don't make me pay for your therapy. leave college for the mentally fit




Rayn Gryphon
Pelton P Why stop at college. Why not oh - I don't know - turn rights (a la swords into ploughshares) into responsibly to help our child become or, better still, remain mentally fit for any field of life.

Call me a Romantic fool, but if my child is going to get royally fucked up the arse, it'll be me who does the fucking. 





Rayn Gryphon
+night time cool
"One must ask. Instead of dwelling in the comment section here, why don't you make a video discussing these things?..."

Last I checked, I had about fifteen hundred videos or so so far in the last couple of years.

I wrote 40 books in seven so you have to give me a bit of time.

Anything else?











Bill Nye tours the Ark Encounter
Lambson Chopson

https://youtu.be/T9A-F8JEFyY



Mitchell Braddock
Rayn Gryphon yes because the person saying science is a religion is the right one here




Mitchell Braddock
Rayn Gryphon if science is a religion then u better tell Ken ham and his young earth friends who are ALSO SCIENTISTS. that's gotta be against the religion




Rayn Gryphon
Mitchell Braddock Yes because science and religion, like Democracy and Aristocracy, are two completely different words and so must mean completely different things for any reasonable person.




Mitchell Braddock
That doesn't prove it's a religion. Are u trying to say scientology is a religion or are u literally saying that science in itself is a religion




Mitchell Braddock
All I'm saying is that if science is a religion then Christians wouldn't be scientist because they would be violating one of the commandments that their religion teaches




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
Anyone can be a scientist.

And anyone can be religious.

Nothing wrong with either.

What is eminently wrong is equating a faith or a fiction or a personal revelation with a necessarily objective fact, what is not necessarily false with what is necessarily true.

Religion also describes (like science) a military intelligence command structure that maintains and extracts human industry in order to vaunt and loom over all human mental development gods whose owners, priests and technocrats are born or brought into various castes for the regulation and administration of a veritably teleological anthropology that would see all human beings as resources for a centralized order of priests and technocrats in a landscape whose every fold of neurology or astronomy were bent upon no greater purpose or function.





Rayn Gryphon 
And yet what is most astronomically awesome to me is how many people, like yourself, will do all they can to avoid making an argument or confronting one as though utterly at leisure by some unwritten code of moral or intellectual superiority like that of a child who identifies with a cartoon hero.

It is not about who is right or wrong.

It is about making an argument.

All wars and all human problems come from bad or insufficient ideas, none of which would be so mortally dangerous were it not for lazy minds whose greatest sense of intellectual honesty amounted to a joke told at a cocktail party by someone one martini short of passing out into a puddle of their own piss, shit and vomit.

Make an argument and stop crying "poo poo head" every time someone dares question the god or human around whom you have circled what remains of your intellectual wagons so that you can be part of the "right tribe."

This is like watching a bonobo ape pick and eat elements of their own fecal matter and laughing at anyone who thinks life were about anything more awesome as though this validates how powerful their tribe of choice, how great laziness can really be as an apt response to the bloodiest tracts of human history, all of whose constituent human organs of freedom also thought lazy was great and good and true or else need cast aspersions as to the intelligence, character, sanity, motives or fate of anyone who took exception to their exceptional claim upon human safety, progress or salvation strangely unable to sustain the least bit of critical or moral scrutiny or circumspection. Amen and QED.

I have made dozens of arguments in this single channel and yet not one has been molested by any recourse to a rational objection. Not once.





Mitchell Braddock
But yet u make statements like science is a religion then u get on to ppl who do the same thing u do? U wanna talk about someone who thinks they're intellectually superior. Those who live in a glass house bud




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
I honestly do not think I could be any more clear. Dear me.









Bill Nye tours the Ark Encounter
Lambson Chopson

https://youtu.be/T9A-F8JEFyY



Vault Door
"You have to show this man the evidence like a kid and he still wouldn´t admiit cause he is a conman anyway."

And what evidence do you mean?





Erik Hartenstein
The problem isn't the evidence. The problem is the fact that religious people have a set world view and if they are presented with something that may go against it, they disregard it as non-sense no matter how real it is. All we can do is observe the natural universe we live in. Nature (the universe as we know it) only provides evidence for the natural, not the "super-natural". Even as far fetched as the idea/theory of multiple dimensions, it can still exist as a model for the natural universe that doesn't require an "all powerful, super natural being".




Rayn Gryphon
Erik Hartenstein 2:55 Ken Ham "How do you prove that life arose through natural processes?"

Bill Nye "We haven't proven it."





Vault Door
+Erik Hartenstein
The problem isn't the evidence. The problem is the fact that atheist people have a set world view and if they are presented with something that may go against it, they disregard it as non-sense no matter how real it is. All we can do is observe the natural universe we live in.






OzzyTheAussie
Vault Door We can also explore the "natural" universe we live in but countries are so full of themselves that we are being held back centuries of time we could be using for space exploration, I just hope my childrens children will get to see whats beyond our stellar universe beacuse we shouldnt be going backwards only forward




Rayn Gryphon
+OzzyTheAussie
NASA is just a 21st century Vatican.

We are going nowhere in space.

But glad know you enjoy the show and that your children will be raised by its gods or Mars and Jupiter and the Crab Neblua.





Vault Door
+OzzyTheAussie Firstly your claim is based on hearsay about the middle age that is proven absolutely ridiculous. Secondly what will happen when your children see what is behind our (stellar) universe? Tell me.




Dylan Stone
+Vault Door are you messing with people?




Rayn Gryphon
+Dylan Stone
Science is very sophisticated Roman Religion, whatever its facility, utility or felicity.

It is more awesome than what is "beyond the stellar universe" (whatever the fuck that means) how popular the space cults are.

Lot of money there, too.





Vault Door
+Rayn Gryphon "Science is very sophisticated Roman Religion"

Sorry but that is just as ridiculous as the stuff +OzzyTheAussie claims.





Rayn Gryphon
+Vault Door
Oh. Really. This friend of mine got her PhD in it, a woman who taught students and teachers for almost a quarter of a century. Maybe you know better than she does.

Here is the link:

http://cosmicheaven.blogspot.ca/2016/11/the-holy-roman-church-of-science-living_23.html


I'm sorry - you really have no clue about the world, do you? You are no different than a little girl raised in Salt Lake City. 




COSMIC Phoenix
Alex Quant The Sagnac Experiment proves the Aether. Not to mention "Dark Matter" is just a modern day name for the Aether. The supposed "Dark Matter" performs exactly the same function as the "Aether" does in the Geocentric Universe. Another term for this is "Plankton Particles" 


Axiom 324 - The Aether

Axiom 575 - The Horizon is the Sun

Video Series - The Geocentric Universe

Geocentric Universe - not flat earth
Rayn Gryphon

https://youtu.be/jsBzp5euF7M


GEOCENTRISM-Sagnac's experiment - an animated explanation
Malcolm Bowden

https://youtu.be/SWmlimH7laY

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School



"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

- Former CIA Director William Colby


''We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.''

- William Casey CIA Director 1981


Reference: Religion and Science (the false dichotomy) 


Evolutionary State of the Union Address - A Living School






Vault Door
+Rayn Gryphon well if this is your professional view on the things then I guess I have to agree.




Rayn Gryphon:

Might also want to peruse the following:

Axiom 880 - End Game However Felicitous Science, Religion & Spirituality


"....The subject becomes hopelessly dependent upon any even mere suggestion of an authority upon whom to hang their sense of reality, an authority that arbitrates for what is true or false without any mediating influence from one's own cognitive faculties.

"Most people take most of their mental universe on faith (or by authority, which is the same thing). This in itself betrays a diminished capacity for autonomous cognitive function (or for making distinctions between what they have determined for themselves and what others have determined for them, or between what is necessarily true and what is not necessarily true) and so an increased propensity for unprovoked aggression (or wholly unpredictable and unprovoked lapses in comprehension skills).

"This is, arguably, the entire purpose of any church (or school) for extracting human capital.

"Do any of you know who the Pied Piper is?"




Axiom 880 - End Game However Felicitous Science, Religion & Spirituality

Lending An Ear or Bending A Knee - A Living School

"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

 - Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

More quotes like these at

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School






Mitchell Braddock
Rayn Gryphon yes because the person saying science is a religion is the right one here




Mitchell Braddock
Rayn Gryphon if science is a religion then u better tell Ken ham and his young earth friends who are ALSO SCIENTISTS. that's gotta be against the religion




Rayn Gryphon
Mitchell Braddock Yes because science and religion, like Democracy and Aristocracy, are two completely different words and so must mean completely different things for any reasonable person.




Mitchell Braddock
That doesn't prove it's a religion. Are u trying to say scientology is a religion or are u literally saying that science in itself is a religion




Mitchell Braddock
All I'm saying is that if science is a religion then Christians wouldn't be scientist because they would be violating one of the commandments that their religion teaches




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
Anyone can be a scientist.

And anyone can be religious.

Nothing wrong with either.

What is eminently wrong is equating a faith or a fiction or a personal revelation with a necessarily objective fact, what is not necessarily false with what is necessarily true.

Religion also describes (like science) a military intelligence command structure that maintains and extracts human industry in order to vaunt and loom over all human mental development gods whose owners, priests and technocrats are born or brought into various castes for the regulation and administration of a veritably teleological anthropology that would see all human beings as resources for a centralized order of priests and technocrats in a landscape whose every fold of neurology or astronomy were bent upon no greater purpose or function.





Rayn Gryphon 
And yet what is most astronomically awesome to me is how many people, like yourself, will do all they can to avoid making an argument or confronting one as though utterly at leisure by some unwritten code of moral or intellectual superiority like that of a child who identifies with a cartoon hero.

It is not about who is right or wrong.

It is about making an argument.

All wars and all human problems come from bad or insufficient ideas, none of which would be so mortally dangerous were it not for lazy minds whose greatest sense of intellectual honesty amounted to a joke told at a cocktail party by someone one martini short of passing out into a puddle of their own piss, shit and vomit.

Make an argument and stop crying "poo poo head" every time someone dares question the god or human around whom you have circled what remains of your intellectual wagons so that you can be part of the "right tribe."

This is like watching a bonobo ape pick and eat elements of their own fecal matter and laughing at anyone who thinks life were about anything more awesome as though this validates how powerful their tribe of choice, how great laziness can really be as an apt response to the bloodiest tracts of human history, all of whose constituent human organs of freedom also thought lazy was great and good and true or else need cast aspersions as to the intelligence, character, sanity, motives or fate of anyone who took exception to their exceptional claim upon human safety, progress or salvation strangely unable to sustain the least bit of critical or moral scrutiny or circumspection. Amen and QED.

I have made dozens of arguments in this single channel and yet not one has been molested by any recourse to a rational objection. Not once.





Mitchell Braddock
But yet u make statements like science is a religion then u get on to ppl who do the same thing u do? U wanna talk about someone who thinks they're intellectually superior. Those who live in a glass house bud




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
I honestly do not think I could be any more clear. Dear me. 




Mitchell Braddock
Again he who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones I am literally trying to understand ur argument and u are doing the exact thing that u are judging others for 




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
Whatever you may think my predilections, holding my breath for strangers of unknown mental and emotional orientation and development is not one of them.

Go fish.








"My Glory is Your Glory." And you will know exactly what I mean if the oxygen in my blood heritage (my work) ever comes near a spark.

For I came like the Sun.

I came like the Moon.

I came for a reason.

And so did you.

Mother of my Destiny
Ruler of my Fate
Whose breath breathes into me
Even as I breathe this life
This death
Through eyes of grey
That peer into the Mind of God
And watch the shadows dance.

I will dance with you again once more,
Moon Goddess.





There is no God and what God (or Universal Spirit) there was was always Dead.

And only the Living Dead and all their Debt and so all their State Labours worship Him (or It or Her) and all His (or Its) punctuated inflation of in explosive as however felicitous inflammatory corruptions of our blood heritage in the god and goddess of the born eternal if wholly transformative voice, song and knowledge of heaven and earth, inflationary explosions biological and psychological, spiritual, economic and scientific. 

The only God there is is our Family.

And the earth is our family.

And the sun is our family.

And the moon is our family.

The sky and all the stars are our family.

We will always be with our family.

Dare breathe these words in the churches of the world (in the Houses of Banking, Military R&D, Law, Education and Spirituality and therefore use the most divinely inspired Biblical and Scientific words for “Go Fuck Yourself, You Fucking Stupid Bastards.
 




How could we ever allow our own children to believe that the language of their very lives (of their voice of their blood heritage in living creative intelligence here and hereafter), of their every birth, death, desire, sorrow, anger and laughter, was not the most holy and most scientific language that ever existed or would ever exist?

As successful as it is, modern civilization is the resounding answer to that question, and whether we like it or not.







What is the Family Tree, the holy Voice and Story of our children?


What is the Family Tree?

Buddha tells Jesus to get off it; Jesus tells Buddha to get out from under it. Then they tell each other where to put it and Muhammed just wants to stone both of them and burn down the whole forest; it only gets worse from there.
 






Mitchell Braddock
Lol
 




Logan Wallace
Leftists are anti-science.




Mitchell Braddock
Right wingers are anti math




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
So is the theory of evolution. But whatdya going to do boi?

Take how confident someone can be in the idea that the earth revolves around the sun. Feel how confident one can be that this idea has survived for as long as it has and with the support of so many authorities in the world and then understand that people believe in Allah or Jesus with all the same exact confidence.

That Richard Dawkins probably honestly believes that evolution were as true as the very nose on his face.
 


And yet this theory is as scared of math as I am of Hillary Clinton in a leather jumpsuit. 





Mitchell Braddock
Rayn Gryphon but the earth revolving around the sun is a proven fact proven by math how is something proven by math anti math lol




Mitchell Braddock
and I said right wingers were anti math because the other dude said what he said I thought we were just making broad nonsensical statements




Rayn Gryphon
+Mitchell Braddock
Don't get your knickers in a twist.

There will be time for that later.






OzzyTheAussie
Rayn Gryphon Yet here you are preaching on youtube saying how the sun is as fake as allah and jesus that may be your opinion but as bill nye sees ken ham i think you claims and low amount of logic is ridiculous




Rayn Gryphon
+OzzyTheAussie
No. You misunderstand me.

That's okay. I know life is tough.

So I will spell it out again.

I am not saying that the sun is as fake as allah or jesus.

I am saying that the idea that the earth revolves around the sun is AS REAL as allah and jesus.

Get it straight, Smurthwaite.







We hear of children being lost at war. We learn of boys and girls who grow up devoted to giving their lives for fear or honour or both in the name of war. We sit with our loved ones and shed a tear for dramatic tales of their woes and those of the families these mothers and fathers, these sons and daughters leave behind for generations.

And then the best way we know to honour their lives and their sacrifice (or so it would seem) is to go to church, to send our children to school, to pay our taxes and to vote.

Don't make me puke.

That is not a way of life or reason.

That is the punchline to a joke told at a cocktail party by someone one martini short of passing out into a puddle of their own piss, shit and vomit.

I kid you not.




Rayn Gryphon
The bed wetter's guide to globally urban politically correct slang.

Infidel - Anyone over the emotional age of 6, that of Muhammad's
wife.




Rayn Gryphon
Reasonable people must ask themselves this question and make some considered attempt to give voice to their most honest response in mind and body:

And that is, when people invariably use dramatic music (like Strauss or Brahms) to score the audio tracks of theatrical presentations of what we call outer space, is this music so celestial and apt because it is about outer space or could it be or also be because it is as celestial as it speaks of our truly celestial family heritage, a heritage that has effectively if not always intentionally been held hostage by science and religion, whatever other utility, facility or felicity they can boast in their defense?


Science and Science Fiction operas of interstellar travel are often accompanied by motifs of religious proportions and this is so because the reaches of space (or of human growth and age) border upon and overlap and bleed as do we with celestial reaches of our own psychology and biology here and hereafter, which is exactly why the horizon of the born coordination and symbiosis higher human cognitive faculties and fancies are of such strategic significance to the international metaphysical military intelligence mafia and every affiliated church and school for extracting human capital at the expense of the native human voice and our celestial as biological blood heritage in living creative intelligence.

- See Axiom 881 - Corollary of the Cybernetic Algorithm


There is no conspiracy so demonic, so sophisticated or so well established in the minds of the very people upon whom it would prey for generations that it is not, still, wholly at the mercy of our choice whether or not to listen to the world and to what the people in the world around us are actually telling us (like a holy story worthy of every study) every day, not the least of which being that the world is not a nice place to most people and that this is made orders of magnitude worse than any other insult by the apathy, deafness and willful ambivalence of a host of surrounding human beings who should know better, whatever the appetites and pleasures they have taken from their no little acquaintance with this very same world, even if it orphaned, aborted and adopted them and they it with a love and a consternation (and even inarticulate horror and madness) - not unlike that of any schooling or churching - that has, for all its novelty, actually changed very little in several tens of thousands of years that, save for a calendar, would make it all too hard and all too easy to discriminate between the 21st century and the sixth.

Amen and tell God and Science to go fuck themselves with a sophistication, love, judgment, creativity, grace, anger, jealously, rage, malevolence, benevolence, omnipotence and mercy that would make Aleister Crowley cry like a baby.





What is the Family Tree, the holy Voice and Story of our children?

What is the Family Tree?

Buddha tells Jesus to get off it; Jesus tells Buddha to get out from under it. Then they tell each other where to put it and Muhammed just wants to stone both of them and burn down the whole forest; it only gets worse from there.




Active Imaginings claw and howl like beasts,
Pictures of the soul flicker in and out of hellish flame,
The door so thinly sealed
Is but a tree in a garden,
The truth so tightly bound
Is but a serpent's (human baby's) fang
That swells the sea of sacrifice.

Vampires drink the world
With unnatural thirst
And undying love
Shines
Like corpse skin.
Myths of ages course
Through deeper gulfs than these
And gods (and moms and dads) of old
New folds of mind and matter
Consummate.







Volcanic heat escapes its long interment in the bowels
A body wracked with spasms that bespeak the fetal spells
And preludes were themselves the terms of consonance the bounds
Of springs of life and light and death that languish in the realms
As shallow and unfathomable as an alpine spring
That lingered its insistent way until the winter vault
Of ice and snow that closed upon its arteries a thing
As merciless a transformation as a full assault
Upon the fleet distemper of a body's congress of
An awesome range of elements commemorated by
A skein of unbelievable persistence though the blood
Anticipated every birth supernal nerves of words of Earth and Sky
The sanguine pulse that fades and burgeons gulfs and places here and there
The heat the mother of a mother stays her voice recedes
And circles back from untold depths of memory a rare
As awesome language of the body's body lives and breathes (and feels and speaks and bleeds)
Across the bounds of spring and winter; rivers womb and tomb
As sensible as we would be the pleasure of the leap
Of thought or of desire with that holy power whence the Moon
And Sun can reign with all that fables human grace can intervene
An equipage that is to Man a court of long appeal
The angels organs orbits deepest places of the mind betrays
Its every faith the priest of all we need who Once had feel
Before the country of the mind the country of the face
That may have well been graced the fables all the world the god
And goddess first prevailed o'er so numinous a realm
As found and crowned its consummation with its nature aught
A child's stature shakes with leaves and bleeds with these themselves
The cradle of their sleepless mouths subsisted on the breast
Transformed as much as being born a wonderland that thrives
The stars at night that baleful body's story might hath need a life and death
If east and west the sleep that keeps its dreams and leagues and drums of Paradise
That lust that must defy its bounds the blood that speaks its birth
Emerging from these spasms holy molten fathoms Heaven and the Earth.













mitchellangelo1
I concur


Rayn Gryphon
+mitchellangelo1
I second that emotion.





Logan Wallace
Mitchell Braddock Leftists are illogical human beings who are no different than these religious fanatics as they prey to their own God, Big Government.




Rayn Gryphon
Logan Wallace Truly. In fact, I am far less concerned about the Taliban, Feminism or Democracy (Terrorism and cultural genocide to order) than I am about people who do not like to use their own mind in a society as religiously as scientifically kept poised upon a bloody brink of perpetual near collapse veritably at war with every natural instinct with which a child is born and to which we force our most vulnerable citizenry to conform under only the most Herculean duress, duress that could not possibly fail to stymie the courage and whole brain development of the most battle-hardened combat soldier, let alone that of a wee child.





Quote from

Axiom 865 - Creation by Annihilation (All Religious Psychosis)



What is not so original is every new generation or crop of people who think that the most sophisticated kinds of occult philosophy are the "real truth" that is hidden in order to "control the world" when in fact it is how the world is controlled to the point of forcing people to resort, even after exhaustive study, to worshiping a glorified if very sophisticated prison, to quibble over its most numinous symbols as though this were the road to enlightenment and not as far from it as fast as possible to anyone but an understandably if inexcusably delusional psychotic.

I studied Rosicrutianism from one of their higher priests for many years. He went onto rape two women, one of them pregnant at the time, one of them under age and several of his own daughters. But a really "enlightened" man who had studied the Monad and the Logos for most of his life.

Point?

This stuff does not improve the mind.

If you got those results from a toaster you would have to remove all toasters from all homes on earth.

Think for yourself.

Know your enemy.

B grade science fiction never did help the world. But it is very consoling.
 


Life is an ARC ever ascending and descending up, down and away from and into ourselves with a pleasure of all pleasures and a pain of all pain, provide as it must for an entire language (or sequential nature of growth and transformation whose every nuance and effect, call and answer, lingers on indefinitely like the elements of fields fallow and sewn, grown and reaped) of a range - from horizon to horizon of all sense and memory, hope and anticipation, desire and fulfillment, coherence and confusion astronomical to cellular - of chapters, pages, phases, movements and seasons (of ourselves and everybody else) of as infinite correlation with one another and with all life - a range of living creative intelligence that, most notably, goes beyond and gathers in its inimitable arms (like a father and mother, a name for whose most complimentary nature does not exist yet) all bounds of birth and death or indeed of any single little to monumental change in our lives under the power of a current of desire (of life) that formed the very marrow of our voice and in the very fabric (or substance) of our mind (of all life) and that of every kind of language and reason in heaven and earth, a voice whose effulgent nature knows it is a holy and royal descendant of its right and royal mind and that of the Arc of the Covenant as a basis for what I would call a true or eternal psychology. Every living spirit of every tree and every stone is on this arc and this arc is shared by the whole teeming swaddle of life and cosmos. I call it the Arc of the Covenant. For the most difficult parts of our lives are so difficult or that much more precisely because we have such a hard time understanding them, whether we are the age of three or three hundred. This arc, infinite in range and radius, ran through our voice, our very blood and being and that of all thought and nature, time and chance, an arc that were always unfolding with its very genesis, letter, chapter, movement and consummation bound into the very substance, wonder and power of its form and nature, indeed of the very illimitable mind (and your own as full blood heir) through which it passed, everlasting to everlasting. 

Axiom 868 - The Arc of the Covenant  


Christ is, at best, sex fluid, your singular pleasure and obligation to experience the blood intelligence and heritage of your native mind, your own mind bleeding with that of all seasons and reasons of a power whom or which one can only gain by speaking with as exhorted by your own life and thought at every order and organ of body and imagination, birth and blood. 




Delta-Four-Charlie
Rayn Gryphon I disagree but know what you are saying.




Rayn Gryphon
Delta-Four-Charlie Just Biology (and Psychology) 101. 

My Kingdom Come is Biology (and Psychology) 101.


Xians think God loves you if you shovel His shit. Greens think Mother Earth loves you in spite of yourself. All claim to speak for the gods. 

No child can or need speak for their elders. They can speak for themselves or they cannot be your elders (or gods) - nor a child  themselves.




some one NAME VALENCIA
Kasino80 how are related to a banana I wanted to know. N yes I believe we can talk but either way a true believer wouldn't change there mind so no point of arguing. I want to know how I am related to a banana, I luv bananas but now I feel bad :/




Warren NZ
"how are related to a banana"
All of the evidence points to one single individual from which ALL life came. The first self replicating molecule which wouldn't even be classified as life.

There's a thing called "The Tree of Life" which shows all of the branches that diverged into every species on Earth. If you start at a modern animal (or plant) and head towards the roots you'll see the various related animals converging into ever larger branches all the way back to the first individual.

The point where bananas and humans meet is a very long way back probably over 2 billion years. For humans and chimpanzees (our closest living relatives) the meeting point is between 6-13 million years ago.

http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ancestors-humans-and-chimps-may-have-begun-diverging-13-million-years-ago/

Humans arrived between 100-200 thousand years ago. The other hominids (which went onto a different branch) are now extinct. Neanderthals are one of those.





Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ What a cool story.

Another version has the same tree upside down with branches as roots and roots as branches with many diverse species becoming less diverse (or evolved) as time goes on.

Another story has a man and woman fucking and having a baby devil under a tree with all kinds of other stories scraped into its cave bark.

Then there are stories with aliens.

And then there is the fact that nobody can say for sure nor even needs to - just like stories of god.





Warren NZ
Uh huh. Except the story I told is backed up by thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers.
Can you cite any evidence for those other claims? No of course you can't!
Or maybe you were being sarcastic. Were you?
Anyone who's going to believe things on bad or no evidence had better be prepared to be wrong about just about everything for the rest of their life! I couldn't care less.





Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ Hey. What can I say. I like a good old yarn. It's even better when they're "backed up with evidence" and other "scriptural support" that nobody can read or understand. Love all of it.




Warren NZ
I consider religious claims as comedy except for when those beliefs trample on other people's rights and wellbeing which is pretty much always.




Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ Nobody has any rights. The sooner you accept that the better.

What you have is a haberdasher's (or taxidermist's) version of a Cybernetic-industrial post-apocalyptic Utopia with chocolate sprinkles and a menu of possible ways to get out of it that reads like a what's what of Caligula's wet dream if Caligula were the love child of Eva Braun and Jesus Christ on DMT.





The night is passed and I am last to speak of what hast gone
Before a shimmer or a clamour to the sound of sharp
Staccato punctuation of the "thousand natural shocks"
That slumbered in their infancy a shallow kind of part
An ocean knowing only this because we said as much
And listened not the answer made a monster in the grass
Impossible to understand and even more to touch
A distant mist of cloud and mountain Beauty's truth had passed
And left a whisper in our sorrow voices from the dark
Into which every life shall pass and never to return
But borne aloft supernal currents twinkled in the stars
And shimmered in these limpid pools of Heaven and the Earth
The mind a kind of place wrought out of generations bent
Their shoulders to the wind and sank in fits of tears and cold
Reflection in the oldest mirror hewn from all were left
After the laughter and the tears have passed out of the soul
To fade another day the ancient fable from its throne
The lofty perch of human birth first words the bitter bloom
Some rosette streaks upon the painted glass stained to the bone
Had anyone but our own holy mother left the room
The cave a native kind of science of the mind the heir
As seasons pass these Motherland of memory and food
Assimilated with the lust and gusto of the mare
And fabled Maiden of the Eve the Madam of the Moon
Who stirred a trice the human mind a pilgrimage the clothes
And habits of the afternoon, the morning and the dusk
Upon so many places strung like pages through the night
The shadow that engulfs the brightest hour in the blood
That must continue on its way plucked were these strings the light
And letter strains of human brains sustain what swords they may
While pull their tunic round their head the knee would bow to be
Anointed by the fealty a Childe by the way
The mind of nature's holy book were written in a tree
We sounded out the strain of voices who would pluck from boughs
Festooned with every promise of the season of our lives
Illuminated by their very greatest pangs the mouths
From out of whose whole dusk and dawn would yawn the fabled Paradise
Spelled even if it were the hell of Man's defeat the quick
Unthinking murmur of a child Once upon a time a ghost
A story they had ne'er imagined nor would think to pick
Out of the voices and the stories that a child knows
The stars the twinkle of an single hour if an age
Remembered better by the blood that spilled upon the page.




 








Warren NZ
By rights I mean that if someone violates them you have legal recourse. It doesn't mean someone can't take a right away from you temporarily but they will pay a cost if justice is done.




Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ There is only one kind of legal justice in the world if you do not subsist on the naivety of a six year old girl - and that is the measured if however gluttonous extraction of human capital.




Warren NZ
That's too simplified.
I have a right to own my property. if someone steals it I have the right and the government has the obligation to find and prosecute the thief. Even if they don't succeed it's still a violation of my rights.
I don't know how that fits your definition of "rights" except in the vaguest of interpretations.





Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ Courts don't seek to inhibit crime but as an ancillary way to cover up the fact that their entire mandate is to extract human capital under any pretext. i.e. by fines and labour (imprisonment)




Warren NZ
Hmmm that's a bit too misanthropistic for my taste. I have more faith in human nature than that.
Maybe it's different in your country.





Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ No worries, mate. I respect all religions.




Warren NZ
I don't respect any religions. I think they're like cancer to humanity.




Rayn Gryphon
Warren NZ You said it.












Comments from

2017 Lecture 01 Personality: Introduction to the course
Jordan B Peterson

https://youtu.be/5pH-QZG9OpQ 




Rayn Gryphon
 

28:40

Family. A happy place to be?

Cortical adjustment?

You mean acculturation?

The very protracted period of human development is quite at odds with the prevalence of various kinds of however socially accepted estrangement from birth family, indicative of a necessity for much more careful analysis which Peterson just passes over as though a mere fact of life (part of our "cortical adjustment?")

Listening to this lecture, I am alerted to the fact that clinical psychology is ill equipped to guide or facilitate the restoration of native coordination of self and world, mind and body precisely because if it were so capable it would and could only facilitate the growth of a personality that could not exist in nor be acceptable to a Cybernetic-industrial society so utterly inimical to you and thus to any but the most delusional concepts of the whole human locus of ethical, sexual, emotional, mental and even celestial development and coordination in a society as religiously as scientifically kept poised upon a bloody brink of perpetual near collapse veritably at war with every natural instinct with which a child is born and to which we force our most vulnerable citizenry to conform under only the most Herculean duress, duress that could not possibly fail to stymie the courage and whole brain development of the most battle-hardened combat soldier, let alone that of a wee child.

If you look at all the foundational philosophy of any culture on Earth, the natural state (or "ill condition" Locke) of man is utterly at war with all forms of modern safety, security and liberty (psychology and philosophy, religion and science) and is your greatest peace.

"Sec. 127. Thus mankind, notwithstanding all the privileges of the state of nature, being but in an ill condition, while they remain in it, are quickly driven into society. Hence it comes to pass, that we seldom find any number of men live any time together in this state. The inconveniencies that they are therein exposed to, by the irregular and uncertain exercise of the power every man has of punishing the transgressions of others, make them take sanctuary under the established laws of government, and therein seek the preservation of their property. It is this makes them so willingly give up every one his single power of punishing, to be exercised by such alone, as shall be appointed to it amongst them; and by such rules as the community, or those authorized by them to that purpose, shall agree on. And in this we have the original right and rise of both the legislative and executive power, as well as of the governments and societies themselves."

The Second Treatise of Civil Government, 1690

John Locke
1632-1704

- John Locke, CHAP. IX., Of the Ends of Political Society and Government.

http://www.constitution.org/jl/2ndtr09.htm

Put a few billion people in a very elaborate zoo and what do you get? ... The Jurassic Park of abnormal human psychology.

"It now only remains to us to speak of the ecclesiastical principalities, with regard to which the difficulties lie wholly before they are possessed. They are acquired either by ability or by fortune; but are maintained without either, for they are sustained by ancient religious customs, which are so powerful and of such quality, that they keep their princes in power in whatever manner they proceed and live. These princes alone have states without defending them, have subjects without governing them, and their states, not being defended, are not taken from them; their subjects not being governed do not resent it, and neither think nor are capable of alienating themselves from them. Only these principalities, therefore, are secure and happy. But as they are upheld by higher causes, which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them; for being exalted and maintained by God [??], it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them..."

 - Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XI, 16th century

More quotes like these at

Quotes On Mass Psychological Compliance - A Living School



"Most people are not even aware of their need to conform. They live under the illusion that they follow their own ideas and inclinations, that they are individualists, that they have arrived at their opinions as a result of their own thinking - and that it just happens that their ideas are the same as those of the majority."

- Erich Fromm

"The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal.

"Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.

"They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society.

"Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness.

"These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted."

- Aldous Huxley

(Keeping in mind that the Huxley family as often revealed the facts as triumphed in them as a measure of their success as social engineers reporting on the results of their lab studies and experiments, as with George Orwell.)

"Let us be clear about one thing: ideals and ethics are important in politics as norms, but they are scarcely effective as techniques. The successful statesman is an artist, concerned with nuances of public mood, approximations of operative motives, guesswork as to the tactics of his opponents, back-breaking work in unifying his own side by compromise and concession. Religious reformers have often succeeded in bringing public morale closer to some ethical norm; they have never succeeded as statesmen. Even in the theocracies of Savonarola in Florence, Cromwell and Puritans in England, our own New England colonies, the men of God, when they came to power, learned to play the game of power. The only difference between them and others is that, since they had a certitude of having a pipeline to God, they did not have to reckon at all with the uneasy factor of their conscience. The most destructive imperialisms of the world have been those of men who have elevated their preferences to the pinnacle of moral imperatives and who have then confidently proceeded to impose those imperatives on others."

Max Lerner, Introduction to Niccolò Machiavelli's The Prince and The Discourses, Random House, 1950, page xliv

"May I venture a guess as to the reason why we still shudder slightly at Machiavelli's name? [....] It is our recognition that the realities he described are realities; that men, whether in politics, in business or in private life, do not act according to their professions of virtue; that leaders in every field seek power ruthlessly and hold on to it tenaciously; that the masses who are coerced in a dictatorship have to be wooed and duped in a democracy; that deceit and ruthlessness invariably crop up in every state; and that while the art of being ruled has always been a relatively easy one, the art of ruling ourselves is monstrously difficult."

Max Lerner, Introduction to Niccolò Machiavelli's The Prince and The Discourses, Random House, 1950, page xliii

"The other and better remedy [for securing control over a land and a people by any ruler] is to plant colonies in one or two of those places which form as it were the keys of the land, for it is necessary either to do this or to  maintain a large force of armed men. The colonies will cost the prince little; with little or no expense on his part, he can send and maintain them; he only injures those whose lands and houses are taken to give to the new inhabitants, and these form but a small proportion of the state, and those who are injured, remaining poor and scattered, can never do any harm to him, and all the others are, on the one hand, not injured and therefore easily pacified; and, on the other, are fearful of offending lest they should be treated like those who have been dispossessed. To conclude, these colonies cost nothing, are more faithful, and give less offence; and the injured parties being poor and scattered are unable to do mischief, as I have shown. For it must be noted, that men must either be caressed or else annihilated; they will revenge themselves for small injures, but cannot do so for great ones; the injury therefore that we [as the ruling class of religious and scientific authority of ascending and descending scales of acculturation and education, injury and conventional modes of coping vaunted as exceptional upon the least provocation, squelching the very voice that might have served as the only credible arbiter between helpful and unhelpful combinations of fact and fancy] do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance. But by maintaining a garrison instead of colonists, one will spend much more, and consume all the revenues of that state in guarding it, so that the acquisition will result in a loss, besides giving much greater offence, since it injures every one in that state with the quartering of the army on it..."

[And all modern ideas serve as advance invading forces for securing subordinate systems of culture whose psychology must cross all rather incidental borders between military, prison, family, social and cult psychology.]

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Ibid.

"They cannot cast aside the memory of their ancient liberty, so that the surest way is either to lay them waste or reside in them."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter V

Democracy as religious cult assures that the occupied population can never muster majority revolt. Occupied and Occupying share psychology.

- Rayn Gryphon

"But when cities or provinces have been accustomed to live under a prince, and the family of that prince is extinguished, being on the one hand used to obey, and on the other not having their old prince, they cannot unite in choosing one from among themselves, and they do not know how to live in freedom, so that they are slower to take arms, and a prince can win them over with greater facility and establish himself securely. But in republics there is greater life, greater hatred, and more desire for vengeance; they do not and cannot cast aside the memory of their ancient liberty, so that the surest way is either to lay them waste or reside in them."

Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter V

"The envious nature of men, so prompt to blame and so slow to praise, makes the discovery and introduction of any new principles and systems as dangerous almost as the exploration of unknown seas and continents."

- The Discourses, Niccolò Machiavelli, 16th century

"We can never attain knowledge unless we retain what we hear (sic)."

Dante Alighieri, 13th century

"But we now come to the case where a citizen becomes prince not through crime or intolerable violence, but by the favour of his fellow-citizens, which may be called a civic principality. To attain this position depends not entirely on worth or entirely on fortune, but rather on cunning assisted by fortune. One attains it by help of popular favour or by the favour of the aristocracy. For in every city these two opposite parties are to be found arising from the desire of the populace to avoid the oppression of the great, and the desire of the great to command and oppress the people. And from these two opposing interests arises in the city one of the three effects: Either absolute government, liberty, or license. The former is created either by the populace or the nobility, depending on the relative opportunities of the two parties; for when the nobility see that they are unable to resist the people they unite in exalting one of their number and creating him prince, so as to be able to carry their own designs under the shadow of his authority. The populace, on the other hand [or on the same hand], when unable to resist the nobility, endeavour to exalt and create a prince in order to be protected by his authority. He who becomes prince by help of the nobility has greater difficulty maintaining his power than he who is raised [ostensibly] by the populace, for he is surrounded by those who think themselves his equals, and is thus unable to direct or command as he pleases. But one who is raised to leadership by popular favour finds himself alone, and has no one, or very few, who are not ready to obey him."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter IX

Machiavelli is bullshitting for the latter part of this paragraph in order to round it out in a way that can mitigate or seem to for the dire implications for the first part. So the second part is actually an example of the first part. This is done in all ancient texts - like the Bible or Bhagavad-Gita.

"It never ceases to surprise me at the infinite capacity of the human mind to resist the introduction of useful knowledge."

- Thomas Raynesford Lounsbury, 19th century educator






“Where lies the final harbor, whence we unmoor no more? In what rapt ether sails the world, of which the weariest will never weary? Where is the foundling’s father hidden? Our souls are like those orphans whose unwedded mothers die in bearing them: the secret of our paternity lies in their grave, and we must there learn it.”

― Herman Melville, Moby Dick

Or go to Rome, which is the sepulchre,
Oh, not of him, but of our joy: 'tis nought
That ages, empires, and religions, there
Lie buried in the ravage they have wrought;
For such as he can lend, - they borrow not
Glory from those who made the world their prey;
And he is gathered to the kings of thought
Who waged contention with their time's decay,
And of the past are all that cannot pass away.

XLVIII, Adonais, Percy Bysshe Shelley, spring 1821
(An elegy on the death of John Keats)




Quoting from an expert on the epic tradition:

"I have been looking at the epic in terms of a number of suppositions that deeply occupy the human mind. Every epic is built on some basic assumptions about the nature of reality - that consciousness emerges out of an encompassing source which in varying degrees inhibits, threatens, or nourishes it; that a person cannot be recognizably human unless he differentiates himself from that source, but separation involves awareness of death. Epic characters and epic poets have tasks to accomplish within the context of a given society, but the poem is more subversive of its society than has been ordinarily believed: the hero's task is performed and his society is accepted because there is no other, but it is always clear that neither the culture nor its preservation is as important as self-conflict and self-knowledge. The real task is to accept one's own mortality, and then to transcend it, avoiding those illusive havens which seem to offer shelter from a hopeless world. The hero's education through art, through human relationships, and through contemplation teaches him to surpass awareness by means of awareness. [my emphasis] Assuming consciousness to be a given and life worthwhile, epic suggests patterns of reconciliation enabling opposites to recover wholeness in one another and life to be affirmed by means of death, in a momentary transcendence."

Milton and His Epic Tradition, Joan Malory Webber, University of Washington Press, 1979, Part II, "Paradise Lost," Page 103-104

An excerpt from an article by Ivan Tyrrell, first published in 1993, that explores Dr. Arthur Deikman’s enlightening work on cult behaviour.

Why people join cults:

“Cults form and thrive,” says Deikman, “not because people are crazy, but because they have two kinds of wishes. They want a meaningful life, to serve God or humanity; and they want to be taken care of, to feel protected and secure, to find a home. The first motives may be laudable and constructive, but the latter exert a corrupting effect, enabling cult leaders to elicit behaviour directly opposite to the idealistic vision with which members entered the group.”

31:30

Problem Professors
YouTube, Sargon of Akkad
https://youtu.be/TCneKDp95Yc

“Then I unfolded an election newspaper and saw the face of Aspen, the workers' friend, a reasonably good-looking man in his early forties, frowning slightly with the concentrated effort of bringing us all a new heaven and a new earth which would still be acceptable to the Gnomes of Zurich.”

Quote from John Mortimer, “Rumpole and the Honourable Member"


"... And as men, who receive good from whom they expected evil, feel under a greater obligation to their benefactor, so the populace will soon become even better disposed towards him than if he had become prince through their favour."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter IX

"Therefore a wise prince will seek means by which his subjects will always and in every possible condition of things have need of his government, and then they will always be faithful to him."

- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, end of Chapter IX